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pikey

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7,704 posts

314 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Snow Chains for a porker with 19" rims. (Cayman S)

Is it possible?

glenn mcmenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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pikey said:
Snow Chains for a porker with 19" rims. (Cayman S)

Is it possible?



Doubt it, but when in doubt RTFM !!!

On the 996's, they were only advised on 17"s due to clearance probs.....


G.

c7xlg

929 posts

262 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Manual said only on the 18" wheels... which is why I got the smaller ones!

pikey

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314 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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glenn mcmenamin said:
Doubt it, but when in doubt RTFM !!!

G.
I'm at work. Manual's in the car. PH knows everything.. now.


pikey

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314 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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c7xlg said:
Manual said only on the 18" wheels... which is why I got the smaller ones!
Bums! The clearance between tyre and arch seemed very slim! How much were they anyway?

cyberface

12,214 posts

287 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Good winter tyres go a long way! Not sure if they're that common in 19" size though...

If you're going to get narrower rims for snow tyres (advisable, fat winter rear boots still end up riding over the snow and sliding about) then you may as well get a smaller diameter that are compatible with chains....

glenn mcmenamin

2,305 posts

268 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Even if you could fit chains to your 19"s, i would advise against it anyway, as they can tend to get
scratched by they chains very easy.....


As said, i don't think snow tyres would be much good either, unless you get some stupidly narrow ones.


G.


silver993tt

9,064 posts

269 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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wouldn't it make more sense and be easier to rent a car locally wherever you are going? You'll just trash your car with all the salt, grit and stones anyway.

Mogulboy

3,066 posts

253 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Try these links...

www.autosock.co.uk/

www.autosock.com/

P.S. No affiliation. I live in Switzerland and have a second set of 17" wheels with winter tyres but I have heard that these Autosock jobbies work (when used as designed) and they do them to fit 19" wheels. :-)

pikey

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Monday 18th September 2006
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silver993tt said:
wouldn't it make more sense and be easier to rent a car locally wherever you are going? You'll just trash your car with all the salt, grit and stones anyway.
Wouldn't have thought so - it's rare I'd make the trip and it's got a gazillion year anti corrosion warranty.

pikey

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314 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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glenn mcmenamin said:
Even if you could fit chains to your 19"s, i would advise against it anyway, as they can tend to get scratched by they chains very easy.....
I was thinking something similar. It's just it would be super to take the Porker.

silver993tt

9,064 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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pikey said:
silver993tt said:
wouldn't it make more sense and be easier to rent a car locally wherever you are going? You'll just trash your car with all the salt, grit and stones anyway.
Wouldn't have thought so - it's rare I'd make the trip and it's got a gazillion year anti corrosion warranty.


Well, it may not show any corrosion but you'll end up with loads of scratches, scuffs and chips. Also, if you park in the car parks at ski resorts, you'll get some nice inscriptions on your paintwork from skis and snowboards.

None of this will be covered by your 'gazillion year anti corrosion warranty'.

cyberface

12,214 posts

287 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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pikey said:
silver993tt said:
wouldn't it make more sense and be easier to rent a car locally wherever you are going? You'll just trash your car with all the salt, grit and stones anyway.
Wouldn't have thought so - it's rare I'd make the trip and it's got a gazillion year anti corrosion warranty.

My rear PU bumper support struts (mild steel) corroded all the way through after I took my 993 to Verbier a couple of years ago. The car gets covered in salt and slush, you park it up underground for a week and then drive it back... if I was doing it again I'd try to pressure-hose it as soon as I arrived!!!

Definitely a great road-trip driving experience though, especially if you get caught in proper snow... hehe

Yex

4,611 posts

250 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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Right then - from the manual

P188 - fit to rear axle only using only fine link snow chains authorised by Porsche. Fitting of snow chains is not permitted if 5mm spacers are fitted.

P232 - Clearance of chains can only be guaranteed with following winter tyre size: 255/40 R 18 95V. Max speed is 50 KPH.

HTH,

Yex

pikey

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314 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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Yex said:
Right then - from the manual

P188 - fit to rear axle only using only fine link snow chains authorised by Porsche. Fitting of snow chains is not permitted if 5mm spacers are fitted.

P232 - Clearance of chains can only be guaranteed with following winter tyre size: 255/40 R 18 95V. Max speed is 50 KPH.

HTH,

Yex

Cheers for that Yex! As I have the spacers (was mandatory with the wheel) and wheels larger than 18", that is a great, big fat, confirmed NO.

Shame. Maybe I could just try and hope the roads are not too bad and cleared at that point. Took a couple of Cerbera's to Val d'Isere once on that basis - I think we were very lucky as the roads were bone dry up and down, but snowy & icey in between.


silver993tt

9,064 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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Depends where you go but in some countries, you need to have snow chains fitted to proceed past certain points otherwise you won't be allowed any further (depending on weather of course).

CharlesW

266 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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According to the Cayman S pricelist the following are available:

18" Cayman S wheels with winter tyres
For vehicles without TPM part no. 987 044 600 09

A snip at £1,779.10 excl VAT and fitting!

For vehicles with TPM part no. 987 044 600 10

Again a snip at £1.943.56 excl VAT and fitting!!


Snow Chains part no. 996 361 922 00

For a very reasonable £334.51 excl VAT.

In some european countries winter tyres are compulsory. It is true chains must be carried on certain roads in the mountains. A lot of local garages make a fortune every winter selling chains to poor unsuspecting tourists, who fall foul of these regulations

I also see in the same price list 18" Boxter S wheels for £238.00 incl VAT. That must be a mistake, or the price per wheel. Anyway they are the same size and would fit the prescribed winter tyres and chains. There must be some sets available secondhand. That is certainly the way I will go when I get my Cayman S.

c7xlg

929 posts

262 months

Tuesday 19th September 2006
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CharlesW,
that price for the boxsteS wheels is the option price over the standard Cayman 18" wheels.
the £1700+theft for 4 wheels with snow tyres isn't tooooo silly when you figure a set of tyres is £600+ on its onw, and then £200 a wheel??

I've driven to Courchevel the last 2 years running. Once in a BMW540 and once in a BMW 330d. We didn't have chains either time as couldn't get them in the right size.

1st time it snowed like made on the way down. I was gettign wheel spin on the autoroute at 3am at 60mph in 5th gear on a constant throttle (on the flat!). There was 3-4" of virgin powder clear across the road as we'd been stuck behind snow ploughs for the last 30miles. When they, and all the other traffic turned off we were the first car through all the fresh snow!!

Follwing year it only started snowing as we got into the mountains. It was gettign pretty bad. Lots of people stopping to put on chains. We kept going. Police were checkign cars.... but they looked at our rear tyres and seemed to like them (new ones fitted... but regular not snow tyres). the drive (I was nav) did a great job to keep us moving and got us up into 1850. We only had to abandon the car when we couldn't get up the last snowey steep road to the hotel. So we got changed in the car park and hit the slopes !! (arrive at 8am).

philelmer

195 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th September 2006
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If it was me, I'd buy a set of used wheels from ebay or the classifieds or whatever, and some aftermarket snow chains (and NOT pay 300 quid for porsche ones....) just for the duration you're away. When you get back, give the wheels a quick refurb and flog them on.

pikey

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7,704 posts

314 months

Wednesday 20th September 2006
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Alternatively I could buy a Cayenne?