PASM on a CaymanS........
PASM on a CaymanS........
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triple7

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4,015 posts

267 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I have driven a car with both and liked it but is it worth it, a Yes or a No please.

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Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Abolutely Yes. yes

Drove my car (986S) back to back with a PASM equipped 987S on the same roads. Don't think of it as a just system that gets you better grip over a wider range of surfaces. Think of it as a magic button that takes a great big iron and smooths out the road in front of you.

If you habitually drive B roads with poor surfaces ... I'd say its a must. At least - from the experiences of my test drive.

triple7

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267 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Thank you for rsvp. Stealer said that also helps with the big wheels I wish to fit to the car.

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rob05

1,194 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I had it on my 987s and would say that for most normal road situations you wont ever use it,but when you do hit that smooth piece of tarmac its awsome,so yes its worth it imo.

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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triple7 said:
Thank you for rsvp. Stealer said that also helps with the big wheels I wish to fit to the car.

G


Yep. Likely will. Back in the day when my car was new they advised NOT combining lowered sports suspension with 18" rims...I imagine the advise now is TO combine PASM with big rims...should help the car be less nervous and prone to tramlining.

Passengered in Yex's car at Bedford a week or two back. Sounded fantastic. Excellent (re: worthwhile) power upgrade on my generation car and handling that was astonishingly good. You're going to love it.

triple7

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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rob05 said:
I had it on my 987s and would say that for most normal road situations you wont ever use it,but when you do hit that smooth piece of tarmac its awsome,so yes its worth it imo.


Thought it was supposed to be for when the tarmac wasn't so smooth!

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steve rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I found the car much nicer to driver with it switched off, but on saying that I was only loaned the car for a few days.

Good luck

Steve R

triple7

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267 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Agree, I did feel it smooth out the bumps, but I don't mind the firm ride on the standard car anyhow.

C'mon guys trying to get the price below £50k but don't want to regret not speccing something! Thanx to you lot I ditched the PCM! hehe

G


Edited by triple7 on Wednesday 30th August 14:45

cayman-black

13,265 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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get pcm and leave suspension standard ,you will only use the sport mode when roads are really smooth. i used the pcm far more and looks better in the car..

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

273 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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triple7 said:
Thank you for rsvp. Stealer said that also helps with the big wheels I wish to fit to the car.

G


My Boxster has it and is running 19" wheels and I think it is essential with the big wheels. The steering on mine is noticeably heavier that a standard Boxster.

sundiver

780 posts

267 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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My Cayman S has 19" Sport Design wheels and no PASM - ride is just fine although I confess I've never driven one with PASM. Drove a 997 with PASM but can't say I noticed anything special but then we were just driving on yer run-of-the-mill knackered Bristol roads.

FWIW if "resale-matters" float your boat then in my opinion PCM (limitations notwithstanding) will be of more frequent concern to your "average buyer" than PASM. Note that I don't think the folks here necessarily fall into that category so the importance of PASM may be viewed differently here.

I just bagged mine as a five months old used example from the local OPC and picked up a well-optioned car at a reduced price over new - wasn't too keen on waiting either. For me PCM and phone were more important than PASM although I'd have happpily have had it if it was there!

triple7

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267 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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TBH I never drive anywhere I don't know and feel in a Cayman PCM really is that important. Thinking about the used route too at the moment as £45-48 will get a nice car, but for £3k extra I can get exactly what I want, so it seems no point, plus I want an '07 model year.

Thanx peeps.

G

Edited by triple7 on Wednesday 30th August 17:44

Yex

4,610 posts

250 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Speaking from personal experience PASM is a must and I'll spec it on any further Porsche's I order or buy as used. It can be a bit too firm on some roads round my way but when the tarmac is smooth and you want to push on a bit it transforms the car, especially when coupled with the sports chrono pack.

I found the system fantastic when on track at Bedford a little while back. As Don so rightly says the handling of the Cayman with PASM engaged is truly amazing, way beyond my current level of ability. I have the standard 18" wheels on my Cayman and feel the wheels, tyres (Sport Pilot's) and PASM are a great combination.

Had a trip to Le Touquet for lunch today and combining the toys together on smooth French tarmac allowed me to press on a bit too quickly in all honestly as I just got into a groove. When I was on M20 coming back from tunnel the combination wasn't as good due to the poor road surface and ridiculous number of "berms" (sp?) in the road. Suggest you try with and without PASM for an extended test drive and make up your own mind. I also am of the opinion that it will be easier to sell the car with PASM and Sports Chrono when I have to.

Yex

Adam B

29,724 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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sundiver said:

FWIW if "resale-matters" float your boat then in my opinion PCM (limitations notwithstanding) will be of more frequent concern to your "average buyer" than PASM. Note that I don't think the folks here necessarily fall into that category so the importance of PASM may be viewed differently here.


agreed

Have tried a few cars with PASM now and on English roads all the sport mode did was make me appreciate the normal mode more. Reckon sports mode is only useful on continent or tracks.

triple7

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267 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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agree that sports mode is of no use to me what so ever, but doesn't PASM offer a better ride with it out of sport mode anyhow??? Where's me brochure............

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willr

363 posts

283 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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PASM in normal mode is a smoother ride than the standard suspension. I'd get it for that, if you are mainly using it on the road.

On track sport PASM does help, but maybe not as much as it could. A couple of times I've felt a strange floating sensation, which I wonder might be PASM trying to work out what to do.

bumcrack

977 posts

295 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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Yes to PASM

Having had the chance to screw both setups in to the ground at Mira, I'd pick the PASM setup every time.

A few points regarding PASM.

As another poster pointed out it's softer than standard setup in normal mode, so might be a good idea with 19' wheels. In normal mode the PASM car tightens dampers for hard cornering and pushes the front end up during hard braking, to reduce the front-end from diving, it feels completely organic.
Also felt the PASM suspension was quieter than standard over rough ground and bumps. In sport mode, the setup is stiff, but unless it's bumpy you'd be surprised how much you car use it. The difference between normal and sport can be felt instantly when the button is pressed, so I think most people feel it's a bit to firm because the ride in normal mode is so good. I tend to use sport mode out of town or when going over 40 mph and it does make the car handle really well, the turn in adn extra feel is great when you're on a charge, it's not just for track work imo.


Edited by bumcrack on Thursday 31st August 17:24

triple7

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Thursday 31st August 2006
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Ta!