Discussion
Probably not, if you apply a bit of common sense.
* It looks like something from Dixons
* The standard console looks better in a GT3 and is easier to use.
* Can you rely on Porsche to support it with updates?
* The are, probably, better after market systems (that are much cheaper)
So, only a complete twit would pay the £2500 for the PCM and Phone - and I have
* It looks like something from Dixons
* The standard console looks better in a GT3 and is easier to use.
* Can you rely on Porsche to support it with updates?
* The are, probably, better after market systems (that are much cheaper)
So, only a complete twit would pay the £2500 for the PCM and Phone - and I have
Is it worth it.....NO
But it saves stick on things & extra wires & does aid re-sale on other 997 models, you can't sell a standard 997 very easily without PCM Nav/Phone module. But not sure how that will apply to the new GT3 as it is more "road driver" friendly than before so may be used more as daily driver & need nav for re-sale. It only adds a small amount of extra weight, so shouldn't upset the trackday guys too much. All in all I think we will all need it for best re-sale (NO scream the trackday guys!), still not worth the money though!
But it saves stick on things & extra wires & does aid re-sale on other 997 models, you can't sell a standard 997 very easily without PCM Nav/Phone module. But not sure how that will apply to the new GT3 as it is more "road driver" friendly than before so may be used more as daily driver & need nav for re-sale. It only adds a small amount of extra weight, so shouldn't upset the trackday guys too much. All in all I think we will all need it for best re-sale (NO scream the trackday guys!), still not worth the money though!
Grant,
I went for 'Touring' spec. I already have track focussed cars and I will use it predominantly on the road.
Off hand, I think I went for:
- Meteor
- PCM + phone
- Xenons
- Cruise
- Heated / embossed seats
- Audio upgrade
- PCCBs
- A few trim things
I would have liked the lwt bucket seats, they really do add to the occasion, but the standard sports ones are much more practical (and £3k cheaper!).
I went for 'Touring' spec. I already have track focussed cars and I will use it predominantly on the road.
Off hand, I think I went for:
- Meteor
- PCM + phone
- Xenons
- Cruise
- Heated / embossed seats
- Audio upgrade
- PCCBs
- A few trim things
I would have liked the lwt bucket seats, they really do add to the occasion, but the standard sports ones are much more practical (and £3k cheaper!).
Nice choice. Any news on delivery?
Pretty much what I will end up going for, without the PCCB's, but with full leather & probably Artic Silver (yes I know!).
I also (on your tip) purchased a G-Lock ready for the GT3's lateral "G", it works very well & will help compensate for the lack of buckets, £30 vs £3,000!!
Pretty much what I will end up going for, without the PCCB's, but with full leather & probably Artic Silver (yes I know!).
I also (on your tip) purchased a G-Lock ready for the GT3's lateral "G", it works very well & will help compensate for the lack of buckets, £30 vs £3,000!!
997gt3 said:
What's a G-Lock? (sorry for ignorance)
It doesn't look much for the cash, but fits on your seat belt & allows you to adjust the lap belt tightly in place, holding you in place through tight bends. It claims to offer 85% of the benefits offered by a full race harness. I can certainly say that it offers much better lateral support than the standard sports seats & is a very useful extra if you are pressing on through the twisty stuff!
grant3 said:
But it saves stick on things & extra wires & does aid re-sale on other 997 models, you can't sell a standard 997 very easily without PCM Nav/Phone module........ the new GT3 is more "road driver" friendly than before so may be used more as daily driver & need nav for re-sale. It only adds a small amount of extra weight
agree with all of that
I was not a customer for the last 996 series GT3, too hardcore for me as daily driver, I respect my fillings too much (!!), so I had & loved a Turbo.
But the new Turbo just doesn't float my boat, it looks too fussy & I know it's faster, but the 996TT was fast enough anyway, so why was I going to pay another £55k to get into one.
Meantime the 997GT3 claims to offer a better ride quality from PASM, now has traction control, plus other more mainstream options. The appeal of a high screaming focussed drivers car, that is just as fast as a 996TT, with more involvement but enough comfort (relative term!)for a daily driver.
So I don't fit the previous GT3 profile as I am unlikely to do many track days.
After much waffling I can now come to the point, if the new GT3 goes to the same profile as the last one you won't need PCM, if many others are like me & moving into the car because of it's daily driver ability, you will need PCM!
How many of you are swapping from 996GT3 to 997GT3 & how many are moving into the new GT3 because of it's market shift?
But the new Turbo just doesn't float my boat, it looks too fussy & I know it's faster, but the 996TT was fast enough anyway, so why was I going to pay another £55k to get into one.
Meantime the 997GT3 claims to offer a better ride quality from PASM, now has traction control, plus other more mainstream options. The appeal of a high screaming focussed drivers car, that is just as fast as a 996TT, with more involvement but enough comfort (relative term!)for a daily driver.
So I don't fit the previous GT3 profile as I am unlikely to do many track days.
After much waffling I can now come to the point, if the new GT3 goes to the same profile as the last one you won't need PCM, if many others are like me & moving into the car because of it's daily driver ability, you will need PCM!
How many of you are swapping from 996GT3 to 997GT3 & how many are moving into the new GT3 because of it's market shift?
Edited by grant3 on Monday 14th August 14:25
997gt3 said:
Are there any 997GT3 people out there who haven't specced PCM yet?
The dealer i'm getting mine from reckons its a must on a 'standard' 997, but perhaps only 50/50 on a GT3.
Does PCM in a GT3 really make it more desirable or does it detract from the GT3 ethos?
The dealer i'm getting mine from reckons its a must on a 'standard' 997, but perhaps only 50/50 on a GT3.
Does PCM in a GT3 really make it more desirable or does it detract from the GT3 ethos?
If you are going 'Club Sport' spec I think it would look better without PCM.
If you are going 'Touring'/'Comfort' spec then probably worth considering.
Either way there are plenty of after-market options.
I'm going from a 997 C2S to the 997 GT3, partly because I want to 'experience' the GT3 (the TT doesn't have the same appeal) and also because I want to do more track orientated stuff. I like the idea of a more focused 911 (hardcore if you like), a car like the C2S but with the volume turned up (literally).
The fact that it now comes with a few more creature comforts is important to me, as it will be my daily driver and I could not live with a stripped out 'trackday special' everyday. I will put PCM and telephone module into it, as I need them and the few kilos it adds, I am never going to notice. The car will always be more capable than me!
Having said that I will spec it with the carbon seats, not to save weight but because I want them, and I think in a GT3 they look fantastic.
Interestingly, when I ordered the car the salesman (with whom I have a long standing relationship) was keen to get me into a TT, probably because they will make more on it?
And that supply was less of a problem.
In the end I practically force my 10K on him!
and then wait to have my order confirmed.
Summary, I decided upon the GT3 as it has become a little more civilised (important as a daily driver), but scratch the surface and there's a monster underneath waiting to bite your head off.
The fact that it now comes with a few more creature comforts is important to me, as it will be my daily driver and I could not live with a stripped out 'trackday special' everyday. I will put PCM and telephone module into it, as I need them and the few kilos it adds, I am never going to notice. The car will always be more capable than me!
Having said that I will spec it with the carbon seats, not to save weight but because I want them, and I think in a GT3 they look fantastic. Interestingly, when I ordered the car the salesman (with whom I have a long standing relationship) was keen to get me into a TT, probably because they will make more on it?
And that supply was less of a problem. In the end I practically force my 10K on him!
and then wait to have my order confirmed. Summary, I decided upon the GT3 as it has become a little more civilised (important as a daily driver), but scratch the surface and there's a monster underneath waiting to bite your head off.
Edited by TheDeadPrussian on Tuesday 15th August 11:10
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