Costco Refusing to Fit Non N-Rated Tyres
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Has anyone experienced Costco refusing to fit NON N-Rated Tyres to their Porsche?
They had a pretty decent price recently for PS5s, which I ordered. They've now arrived and they're saying they won't fit them as they're not N-Rated.
I'm awaiting a call back from their manager, as I couldn't find anything in their terms that states this. I'm keen that they do fit them as they're quite a lot cheaper than from other places. This is the first set of tyres I'm fitting on my 2001 986.
They had a pretty decent price recently for PS5s, which I ordered. They've now arrived and they're saying they won't fit them as they're not N-Rated.
I'm awaiting a call back from their manager, as I couldn't find anything in their terms that states this. I'm keen that they do fit them as they're quite a lot cheaper than from other places. This is the first set of tyres I'm fitting on my 2001 986.
Something a slightly different happened when my wife needed 2 front tyres. They insisted on putting the new tyres on the rear and moving the rears to the front. I wasn't with her but when did this become a thing? They apparently said they wouldn't fit them unless she agreed.
Not sure what their plan would be if I bought my tyres from them as my car has 19" wheels on the front and 20" on the rear!
Not sure what their plan would be if I bought my tyres from them as my car has 19" wheels on the front and 20" on the rear!
rfn said:
Has anyone experienced Costco refusing to fit NON N-Rated Tyres to their Porsche?
They had a pretty decent price recently for PS5s, which I ordered. They've now arrived and they're saying they won't fit them as they're not N-Rated.
Someone in that branch thinks N-rated are an insurance requirement, due to Porsche OPC service managers (of old?) implying as such. I once even had Camskill refuse to sell me non-N-rated.... that was a long time ago. I thought everyone had grown up by now?They had a pretty decent price recently for PS5s, which I ordered. They've now arrived and they're saying they won't fit them as they're not N-Rated.
Just get them to give you the refusal in writing. The individual at fault will not, a more sensible manager person will get involved, and everyone will live happily ever after.
ziggy328 said:
Something a slightly different happened when my wife needed 2 front tyres. They insisted on putting the new tyres on the rear and moving the rears to the front. I wasn't with her but when did this become a thing? They apparently said they wouldn't fit them unless she agreed.
Modern thinking is that nobody can drive anymore. Therefore (in any given new-tyre situation) the newer tyres need to be fitted to the rear, to result in understeer in an emergency situation.But insisting and/or refusing? Perhaps an american has sued a tyre fitter for not doing the above?
ziggy328 said:
Something a slightly different happened when my wife needed 2 front tyres. They insisted on putting the new tyres on the rear and moving the rears to the front. I wasn't with her but when did this become a thing? They apparently said they wouldn't fit them unless she agreed.
Not sure what their plan would be if I bought my tyres from them as my car has 19" wheels on the front and 20" on the rear!
I can answer that - they’ll still try and swap them until you point out they’re different. Then they’ll refuse to fit the new ones to front until you get the store GM to over-rule them. They’ll then do it grumpily, but make a point of saying they absolutely wouldn’t do it if the rears were less than 4mm.Not sure what their plan would be if I bought my tyres from them as my car has 19" wheels on the front and 20" on the rear!
The really daft thing is the car’s handbook (it was a 2005 Merc) said if fitting a pair of tyres then they’d be best on the front as Mercedes ESP can deal with the back.
To be fair, they didn’t mention that the tyres needed to be MO versions. On Porsche, is current N rating really relevant for a 23yr old car?
I used Costco several times for tyre replacement on my old 2003 996, and found them to be very good. They never mentioned N-rating, even though I did use them to fit N-rated tyres. If I were you I would use the argument that PS5 is a better tyre than the ones homologated by Porsche when your car was sold two decades ago.
I have heard them mention that they normally fit new tyres to the rear even if you are replacing a worn front pair, but obviously they can’t do that in any 911 since the wheels are different sizes. As this is a safety mandated policy, since oversteer is considered more dangerous than understeer, I doubt they would agree to ignore the policy for cars with the same size wheels all round.
I have heard them mention that they normally fit new tyres to the rear even if you are replacing a worn front pair, but obviously they can’t do that in any 911 since the wheels are different sizes. As this is a safety mandated policy, since oversteer is considered more dangerous than understeer, I doubt they would agree to ignore the policy for cars with the same size wheels all round.
G-996 said:
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I have heard them mention that they normally fit new tyres to the rear even if you are replacing a worn front pair, but obviously they can’t do that in any 911 since the wheels are different sizes. As this is a safety mandated policy, since oversteer is considered more dangerous than understeer, I doubt they would agree to ignore the policy for cars with the same size wheels all round.
It is industry recommended practice, it's just that few follow it. It makes sense on your average FWD car as otherwise they end up with old, deteriorating, tyres on the rear.I have heard them mention that they normally fit new tyres to the rear even if you are replacing a worn front pair, but obviously they can’t do that in any 911 since the wheels are different sizes. As this is a safety mandated policy, since oversteer is considered more dangerous than understeer, I doubt they would agree to ignore the policy for cars with the same size wheels all round.
The really daft thing is in the US tyre rotation is routine and Costco do it there free - so they're generally going to be putting the most worn tyres on the rear. They won't do rotation in the UK as a stand-alone job.
If you watch this it'll give you the reason why you should put new tyres on the rear
https://youtu.be/ufau3V2Nc7c?si=R1UqyEjFHp5FMG2p
https://youtu.be/ufau3V2Nc7c?si=R1UqyEjFHp5FMG2p
scrounger73 said:
If you watch this it'll give you the reason why you should put new tyres on the rear
https://youtu.be/ufau3V2Nc7c?si=R1UqyEjFHp5FMG2p
Very good. Thanks for the link.https://youtu.be/ufau3V2Nc7c?si=R1UqyEjFHp5FMG2p
scrounger73 said:
If you watch this it'll give you the reason why you should put new tyres on the rear
https://youtu.be/ufau3V2Nc7c?si=R1UqyEjFHp5FMG2p
I watched it. The issue I have is that the tester says the tyres being compared are either 'new' or they are 'worn'.https://youtu.be/ufau3V2Nc7c?si=R1UqyEjFHp5FMG2p
How worn? 90% 50% 10%? It's not particularly useful IMHO.
981Boxess said:
rfn said:
981Boxess said:
You have 23 year old tyres on your car?
I've only owned it about a year :-) I can see why them not being N rated might not matter to you
Gary C said:
981Boxess said:
rfn said:
981Boxess said:
You have 23 year old tyres on your car?
I've only owned it about a year :-) I can see why them not being N rated might not matter to you
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