Visited my local OPC today

[Spevs]

Whilst looking at 718 Spyder entered into conversation with salesman about reliability of pdk gearboxes and he was suggesting that if out of OPC warranty it would cost £35k to fix...............surely this can't be true ......

[Spevs]

anonymous said:

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Exactly, pdk can be expensive out of warranty......" As say the Porsche People ".....nice to hear from you Cossers.....👍

[supersport]

ATM on here had his fixed. So it is possible.

[Spevs]

[Spevs]

supersport said:

ATM on here had his fixed. So it is possible.

Does any one know how much it costs and what work was done , from my experience today, the OPC doesn't want u to go outside the OPC shield and appear happy to exaggerate costs.....

[jackwood]

Is the PDK box your only concern? There are several other big ticket items on a 718 GT4/Spyder that would want me to keep it in warranty.

The fragility of the PADM being the main one.

[scrounger73]

PDK gearbox is ~£10k-12k. The engine on the 4.0 is ~£35k

[Snowy999]

A friend experienced a pdk failure on his new 'super low mileage' GT4. It stopped using 1st and 3rd IIRC. Replaced under warranty by the supplying OPC, took a couple of weeks to get a new one, he said he was told that the cost was c.£20k as they just bolt a new one in. BGB in the US has started to do pdk repairs. I can ask more detail if it helps.

[s2000db]

Actual cost to Porsche will be 10-15% of what you pay at the parts counter..

[981Boxess]

anonymous said:

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The main reason I have the OPC warranty and have OPC servicing is the PDK, not that they are unreliable, the opposite, but anything can go wrong and if it did it would be a nightmare. In the past if it were a manual box or a simple auto I would probably have fixed it myself but the PDK is on another level. A mate of mine who has done nothing but autos all his decades in the motor game won't touch them, you cannot get all the parts and the old core is too expensive to buy for spares.

When you say can be fixed, true, you will always find someone to take your money on a (can't guarantee it) repair but correct me if I am wrong but isn't the same person who had his PDK fixed now having problems with it again?

Forgetting the PDK for a second, there is nothing cheap to fix on a Porsche, OPC route or not they are not cheap cars to run, especially if you put miles on them.

[981Boxess]

s2000db said:

Actual cost to Porsche will be 10-15% of what you pay at the parts counter..

Even if that were true (I doubt it) how much has it cost Porsche to get to the point to be able to make them for what it now costs them?

[Spevs]

jackwood said:

Is the PDK box your only concern? There are several other big ticket items on a 718 GT4/Spyder that would want me to keep it in warranty.

The fragility of the PADM being the main one.

Thanks everyone for your comments and the salesman did say the 718's were more prone to PADM failure than the 981's.

[981Boxess]

anonymous said:

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Just going by what he has posted, but my point is IF it were to go wrong and you have one what options do you have?

[s2000db]

981Boxess said:

s2000db said:

Actual cost to Porsche will be 10-15% of what you pay at the parts counter..

Even if that were true (I doubt it) how much has it cost Porsche to get to the point to be able to make them for what it now costs them?

PDK is old technology now, so most of the development cost would be fully amortised by now, so they’re including group profits, overheads, and future development costs on there. They probably make a 15-20% profits on parts.
By the time you add OPC markup (20-30%) plus VAT, you can easily see how the price to consumer is 8-10 times the original cost.

[Wills2]

There is a thread regarding a PDK replacement on here it was around £12k and out of warranty Porsche gave 80% goodwill, quite why the salesperson decided that quoting a 35k figure was going to in anyway induce someone to buy a car is anyone's guess.

[Armitage.Shanks]

There’s a lot of risk adverse people on here. You must be shaking like a stting dog every time the PDK changes gear.
Most Independents I’ve spoken to do very little work on or have knowledge of PDK faults. Seals and solenoids can go on them but these can easily be replaced.

IIRC ATM had a battery on its way out and the low voltage threw up PDK errors?

It’s a pity the OPC salesman didn’t warn 996/997 customers of bore score if they want to upsell extended warranty openly criticising the quality of their own product

I will say the price of extended warranty on Boxster/Cayman being near half the value of the 911 is good value. It’s just a pity you have to pay the high prices for the servicing.

[Spevs]

Wills2 said:

There is a thread regarding a PDK replacement on here it was around £12k and out of warranty Porsche gave 80% goodwill, quite why the salesperson decided that quoting a 35k figure was going to in anyway induce someone to buy a car is anyone's guess.

I was very surprised when he said £35k, I was prepared for £20k , to which I responded by saying any pdk Porsche that's worth less £40k if it needs a replacement box it's probably a write off financially and he agreed..........madness imho

[SkinnyPete]

I had a similar discussion with the service manager.

He said about £18k for a 981 S engine and £11k for a PDK box. Even if those figures are inflated, it's enough to scare me into always having a warranty (which to date has paid for itself).

[hunter 66]

Always lots of donor parts from crashed cars .........
01 GT3RS , engine about £35k to rebuild and has a 20 hour life , before refresh again

[johnny senna]

I think this company in the North East can fix PDK boxes??

https://austrin-engineering.co.uk/