Jacking up 997.2 - where to locate trolley jack?

[Lungauer]

I would like to poke around underneath my GTS (cleaning mostly) and am not sure where the trolly jack should go. I'd hate to do something horribly wrong and thought I would call on the power of PH for guidance. Also can axle stands be used effectively?

Thanks in advance.

[Rockster]

The only sanctioned lift points are the lift pads just behind the front wheel wells and just ahead of the rear wheel wells. While some owners lift their cars using other places they are daft.

Possibly the worst is lifting the car with the jack under the engine. The engine mounts are designed to support the engine not the weight of the car.

If you must lift the car invest in a hydraulic scissors lift or something similar that you can then lift the car either by the lift pads on the bottom of the car or with the proper hardware by the tires/wheels.

[LindsayMac]

This is what you require, I bought 2 last month, excellent
If you jack the car at the rear lift point high enough the front will lift also, ie complete side lift

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130913365561?ssPageName=...

[thegoose]

LindsayMac said:

This is what you require, I bought 2 last month, excellent
If you jack the car at the rear lift point high enough the front will lift also, ie complete side lift

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130913365561?ssPageName=...

That looks neat but only needed if not using a jack with a rubber pad.

[nsm3]

I used to just put a folded old tea towel (about 1" thick) on mine - worked a treat, no damage on C2S and GT3, although I used to have to drive the wheels onto some 1" thick timber for the GT3 or the jack wouldn't go under.

[Martian O]

nsm3 said:

...I used to have to drive the wheels onto some 1" thick timber for the GT3 or the jack wouldn't go under.

I have one of these, no problems with jacking my two low cars and on offer at the mo.

[WindyMiller67]

Could Jacking up at one rear corner to the extent that the front wheel comes off the ground too twist the chassis on a less rigid (than a coupe) targa or cab?

[thegoose]

Martian O said:

nsm3 said:

...I used to have to drive the wheels onto some 1" thick timber for the GT3 or the jack wouldn't go under.

I have one of these, no problems with jacking my two low cars and on offer at the mo.

These are even better
http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/co...

[GC8]

thegoose said:

LindsayMac said:

This is what you require, I bought 2 last month, excellent
If you jack the car at the rear lift point high enough the front will lift also, ie complete side lift

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130913365561?ssPageName=...

That looks neat but only needed if not using a jack with a rubber pad.

Better to use it along with a jack with a decent pad.

[hopeydaze]

I agree with using a trolley jack on the rear jacking point (in front of the rear wheel). However, if you then want to remove the rear wheel I would not trust leaving the car only supported with a trolley jack - you want to get a jack stand under the jacking point which is already occupied by the trolley jack!

[thegoose]

GC8 said:

thegoose said:

LindsayMac said:

This is what you require, I bought 2 last month, excellent
If you jack the car at the rear lift point high enough the front will lift also, ie complete side lift

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130913365561?ssPageName=...

That looks neat but only needed if not using a jack with a rubber pad.

Better to use it along with a jack with a decent pad.

Actually it's probably better to use the insert with a jack with a cup-like metal head (i.e. the insert thingy can't slide off it) rather than a pad.

[GC8]

Mine has a pad but it also has a lip to prevent squiushy incidents.

[DiscoColin]

Jackpoint stands for the proverbial win in my humble opinion - that (with a cheap and not overly heavy 1.25 tonne Clarke low entry jack that I bought off of eBay as an ex-demo for 60 quid) was my solution to the conundrum (not the cheapest option, but it is easy and there is zero chance of anything ever falling off of those or failing while you are under the car. Designed by an American lawyer : need I say more).

Edited by DiscoColin on Friday 22 November 19:20

[996TT02]

DiscoColin said:

Jackpoint stands for the proverbial win in my humble opinion - that (with a cheap and not overly heavy 1.25 tonne Clarke low entry jack) was my solution to the conundrum (not cheap though).

These seem brilliant. However also thinking in terms of a cross-bar with two of the jacking pads mentioned above, you jack the car from the middle of the bar, and then place regular jack stands under the bar. Only worry at the moment is the possibility of the bar rotating... but if the jacking pads lock on to the jacking points then this can be made to work safely.

[mybrainhurts]

WindyMiller67 said:

Could Jacking up at one rear corner to the extent that the front wheel comes off the ground too twist the chassis on a less rigid (than a coupe) targa or cab?

Pardon me, but ---->

[996TT02]

mybrainhurts said:

WindyMiller67 said:

Could Jacking up at one rear corner to the extent that the front wheel comes off the ground too twist the chassis on a less rigid (than a coupe) targa or cab?

Pardon me, but ---->

You are right of course however many may notice the chassis flex, at least they would on many convertible cars, and it is recommended to keep the doors shut when jacking from any corner.

Not that this necessarily applies to 911s.

[Lungauer]

Wow! A lot a very useful information - thanks all. I have a low entry jack (from Caterham days), but not sure my axle stands are suitable. Looks like I've some happy online ordering to do.

[shantybeater]

DiscoColin said:

Jackpoint stands for the proverbial win in my humble opinion - that (with a cheap and not overly heavy 1.25 tonne Clarke low entry jack that I bought off of eBay as an ex-demo for 60 quid) was my solution to the conundrum (not the cheapest option, but it is easy and there is zero chance of anything ever falling off of those or failing while you are under the car. Designed by an American lawyer : need I say more).

Edited by DiscoColin on Friday 22 November 19:20

I am so glad you showed me these, I've been desperately searching for a solution which doesn't involve potentially damaging the underside of my car, the closest I came to was these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEIGHT-ADJUSTABLE-CAR-RA...

Problem being you then can't remove wheels without being back to square one!!

[Martian O]

thegoose said:

Martian O said:

nsm3 said:

...I used to have to drive the wheels onto some 1" thick timber for the GT3 or the jack wouldn't go under.

I have one of these, no problems with jacking my two low cars and on offer at the mo.

These are even better
http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/co...

But no good for my 2.3 tonne Touareg!

[GC8]

Probably more than adequate. Theyre pretty but the steel jacks are for more durable, though, and able to lift a whole Toureg off the ground (rather than just lifting one end at most, which is what jacks usually do).