93k miles on 3 yr old 997
93k miles on 3 yr old 997
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DeeKay17

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88 posts

162 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Just saw this car

http://www.northwayporscheltd.co.uk/used/porsche/9...

A gen 2 997 C2S with Northway Porsche, car registered in 2010 but has already hit 93,000 miles. Full Porsche service history but quite a relatively light spec on the car - no Bose, Sports Chrono or PSE.

It's priced attractively to reflect mileage but will it suffer from a massive drop in value once it hits 100k miles? Anything else to bear in mind?


qureshia

4,766 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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There is another high mile Gen 2 on eBay, 60k miles with PDK for £36.5k


pete.g

1,531 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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There is a psychological barrier for some buyers once you hit 100k miles; that's why I buy my runaround cars with high mileages, as it makes for cheap motoring.

However, there is a reason behind this - a full service history is great, but it doesn't mean that you won't have to start replacing wear and tear items like suspension components, alternator, air con compressor, etc, which on a Porsche are expensive parts.

See if you can get a look at the service receipts to see what additional work was done - if every recommendation by the OPC has been acted on by the owner, then there should be plenty. (at 93k probably about 6 sets of pads and discs for a start!)

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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pete.g said:
There is a psychological barrier for some buyers once you hit 100k miles; that's why I buy my runaround cars with high mileages, as it makes for cheap motoring.

However, there is a reason behind this - a full service history is great, but it doesn't mean that you won't have to start replacing wear and tear items like suspension components, alternator, air con compressor, etc, which on a Porsche are expensive parts.
But again, that has no bearing whatsoever on the magic 100,000k mile barrier.

Different parts will require changing at different mileages, and a car at 80k may well be due a lot of replacement parts but the current owner is 'putting off' replacement as long as possible (and then punting it on before replacement is essential) whereas a 100,000 mile car may well have had a number of these parts replaced fairly recently.

The 100,000 threshold is meaningless in isolation. (but try telling the general ignorant car-buying public that)



Anyway, 32k feels like a lot of money for that car.


anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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monthefish said:
But again, that has no bearing whatsoever on the magic 100,000k mile barrier.

Different parts will require changing at different mileages, and a car at 80k may well be due a lot of replacement parts but the current owner is 'putting off' replacement as long as possible (and then punting it on before replacement is essential) whereas a 100,000 mile car may well have had a number of these parts replaced fairly recently.

The 100,000 threshold is meaningless in isolation. (but try telling the general ignorant car-buying public that)



Anyway, 32k feels like a lot of money for that car.
Why, other than the mileage?

Zanderman

1,109 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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I have been looking at a similar car with 60k miles and that is putting me off. A 3 year old car with 60k miles just means it is close ish to that 100k barrier others have mentioned where most people wont touch it. I could hit that in 2-3 years and how much would the car be worth at that point? If you buy a car with 30k miles and put 30k on then its still reasonable in other peoples minds.

So what I am saying in a long arsed way is that 90k+ miles wouldn't necessarily bother me as long as the car has been looked after but it might make it really hard to sell on (especially if you put a fair few miles on it)

GentlePersuasion

26,140 posts

244 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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DeeKay17 said:
Just saw this car

http://www.northwayporscheltd.co.uk/used/porsche/9...

A gen 2 997 C2S with Northway Porsche, car registered in 2010 but has already hit 93,000 miles. Full Porsche service history but quite a relatively light spec on the car - no Bose, Sports Chrono or PSE.

It's priced attractively to reflect mileage but will it suffer from a massive drop in value once it hits 100k miles? Anything else to bear in mind?
Nothing to add other than, fair play to the previous owner. I bet that was fabulous way to do 30k a year in.

Similarly, I did 20k hard miles in 6 months in a Gen 1 C2S. It was an unbelievably good car and nothing went wrong. Really miss it.

I'd wager that the Gen 2 above still feels perfectly tight. Probably more so than many London-based low mileage examples of the same age.

pete.g

1,531 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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monthefish said:
pete.g said:
There is a psychological barrier for some buyers once you hit 100k miles; that's why I buy my runaround cars with high mileages, as it makes for cheap motoring.

However, there is a reason behind this - a full service history is great, but it doesn't mean that you won't have to start replacing wear and tear items like suspension components, alternator, air con compressor, etc, which on a Porsche are expensive parts.
But again, that has no bearing whatsoever on the magic 100,000k mile barrier.

Different parts will require changing at different mileages, and a car at 80k may well be due a lot of replacement parts but the current owner is 'putting off' replacement as long as possible (and then punting it on before replacement is essential) whereas a 100,000 mile car may well have had a number of these parts replaced fairly recently.

The 100,000 threshold is meaningless in isolation. (but try telling the general ignorant car-buying public that)



Anyway, 32k feels like a lot of money for that car.
I think you're saying what I was saying? I regularly buy 100k+ mile cars and run them for a while, replacing parts as necessary. If this car has had the necessary maintenance it might be a good buy. If not, it would be need to be a good deal cheaper.

I would buy something like this before I'd buy an ultra low mileage car. A local dealer offered me a 2300 mile 2006 997 C2S last week!

thegoose

8,077 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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The important information required in this case is the running hours and hence average speed. If it's been on long motorway runs with an average of say 50-60mph then there's every chance it will be less worn than a 30,000 mile city car that's run just as many hours. In that use it's possible to have had only one set of discs too.

DeeKay17

Original Poster:

88 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Some great points mentioned, thanks to all who contributed.

It's hard to gauge a sensible price with so few such examples.

Magic919

14,510 posts

231 months

Thursday 16th May 2013
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Bear in mind the mileage limit for OPC warranty. That might affect a future buyer's view of the car.