1970 2.2 911T - fun to drive?
1970 2.2 911T - fun to drive?
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roygarth

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2,674 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I'm in the intial thinking phase re. buying one of one of these to hoon around the local B/C roads up here in North Norfolk. I'm sure the 911E & 911S with the extra power would be fun but they are beyond my budget.

I know its a bit 'how longs a piece of string?' but with only 125bhp on tap will it be a fun drive?

Thanks
Piers

RSGulp

1,472 posts

269 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Strangely you'll probably find it more fun to drive than a lot of the more powerful 911s. Proper foot to the floor around corners motoring if it's set-up well.

Many years ago I had a VW Beetle with an updated engine pumping out a massive 90bhp. It was one of the most fun-to-drive, foot-in-thecarpet, B/C road cars I've owned!

Rutlandracing

229 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I've got a '72 with a 3.0 engine and carbs...plenty quick enough for me. I've also got a 964 that is way beyond RS spec that I've tentatively put in the classifieds...that's way too fast for me! Lots of fun to be had out of an old school air cooled car.

hornbaek

3,832 posts

265 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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I have a DB4 with an upgraded 4.7 liter engine. It is a lot more fun to drive that at "normal" speeds than my GT3 RS 4.0 at the same speeds. The issue is that with older cars you are driving them at 75% of their potential which is a lot more involving than the opposite is the case with modern cars. On track this is obviously a completely different equation.

Geneve

4,018 posts

249 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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With the early cars, the driving enjoyment comes from their relative lightness and free revving nature of some of the engines.

Can't speak for the 2.2T, but the 2.2S was brilliant with a lovely sound track. Did have a 2.4T (carbs) and it was more suited to touring that thrashing.


roygarth

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2,674 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Geneve said:
With the early cars, the driving enjoyment comes from their relative lightness and free revving nature of some of the engines.

Can't speak for the 2.2T, but the 2.2S was brilliant with a lovely sound track. Did have a 2.4T (carbs) and it was more suited to touring that thrashing.

This is what worries me about the T versus E and S...I'll have to drive one and find out for myself.

Riversides

106 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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You really need to live with the car for sometime before understanding its capabilities. A brief test drive will never give you the full picture. Brakes, handling and gearbox in a 40+ year old 911 need familiarisation, but when you do, it will be a very rewarding experience. Apart from all that, they absolutely stand out in modern traffic - a really pretty little car that makes everyone smile when they see it. You wouldnt sell your beloved family pet, and an old 911 makes you feel the same way about it!

PhilRS

264 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Definitely yes, it will be fun to drive. I owned a white one for two years before buying a great blood orange 2.4S. Of course the 2.4S was faster, but the 2.2T had a enough power and torque to have fun with--and arguably I had more fun driving the 2.2T (with 5 gears) on twisty roads than with the 2.4S which was quite peaky (great on cams, not so off cams).

As said earlier in this thread, early 911s are about the lightweight experience--a 3.2 will feel heavy in comparison. And this experience is quite similar irrespective of engine.

roygarth said:
I'm in the intial thinking phase re. buying one of one of these to hoon around the local B/C roads up here in North Norfolk. I'm sure the 911E & 911S with the extra power would be fun but they are beyond my budget.

I know its a bit 'how longs a piece of string?' but with only 125bhp on tap will it be a fun drive?

Thanks
Piers

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Not driven a T but I can vouch for 1970 S and most of the extra power is only available if your rev the boll@@ks off it. Just back from Center Gravity getting some Chris Franklin love on mine and it weighed in at 1067 kg with a full tank of fuel. T probably a tad lighter so goodish power to weight ratio - and a dellightfully light helm.



roygarth

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2,674 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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metsta said:
Quick test drive unless you're an old air cooled dub chap won't be great with a 901.
But after a week or so you'll love it.
My 18 mile 1.5 hr commute looks like this and is fine

Car is light enough small enough and cute enough to cut people up.

Silverstone at full tilt looks like this



Car is around 160bhp weltmeister roll bars and S barrels and pistons some average carbs and filters.
It sounds lovely on full tilt screaming through the stock box and ssi's
Welcome to come and see mine and drive it with me of your local?
I drive it respectfully and hard once warmed up am respectful of its limitations and we get on fine
Am considering some rear 3 point belts for the kids. I drive to the airport for work and leave it at Stansted
go shopping in it and am off to the ring with my son in it in June.
It's a peach and T's are edging towards £40k now so don't hang about too long

Edited by metsta on Wednesday 15th May 03:36


Edited by metsta on Wednesday 15th May 03:38
That does look fun..Thanks for the offer, where are you based?

RiccardoG

1,755 posts

302 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Slight thread highjack here, but does anyone have experience of driving the 1974-77 2.7 models?

I am considering getting one as a classic 911 to go along my 997. Neither car would be getting used as a daily though.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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RiccardoG said:
Slight thread highjack here, but does anyone have experience of driving the 1974-77 2.7 models?

I am considering getting one as a classic 911 to go along my 997. Neither car would be getting used as a daily though.
Er.... Not Porsche's finest moment! Go earlier, or later SC for one of the most reliable Porsches ever.
3.2 better still.

derektrimblitz

317 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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I have a 2.4t the engines a 2.2e mechanical injection

It's a lovely car to drive, not fast but really easy to understand what's going on...

Acf69

407 posts

201 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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I'd love a 69 registered 911, no idea what it would be like to drive, but I love the look. Only issue is I only have one garage and my 996T is in there at the moment

metsta

432 posts

253 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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between and hertfordshire and twickenham most days

RiccardoG

1,755 posts

302 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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drmark said:
Er.... Not Porsche's finest moment! Go earlier, or later SC for one of the most reliable Porsches ever.
3.2 better still.
I understand that reliability wasn't great 40 years ago (something to do with head studs and cooling?) but I would have thought that the "survivors" are past those issues now?

My question was more on the 'character' of the engine and the package as a whole. I quite like these 2.7s as they are classic enough with their chrome window frames and very basic spec, while being a bit of an underdog too.