991 Turbo & Turbo S... Sept delivery

[pdj81]

Well its finally arrived - news just out on Evo:

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/289339/2013_pors... Newsletters&uid=35da14425c9b9c34368d4fdf9229ae47

What are peoples honest initial impressions ? Im not blown away by the looks but then the whole 991 gen has left me a bit unsure.

No doubt it will be an absolute weapon in either form and id wager strong money that the performance stats are the usual conservative estimates i.e. both cars will be well below 3's when launched off the line

Discuss!

[sidicks]

pdj81 said:

Well its finally arrived - news just out on Evo:

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/289339/2013_pors... Newsletters&uid=35da14425c9b9c34368d4fdf9229ae47

What are peoples honest initial impressions ? Im not blown away by the looks but then the whole 991 gen has left me a bit unsure.

No doubt it will be an absolute weapon in either form and id wager strong money that the performance stats are the usual conservative estimates i.e. both cars will be well below 3's when launched off the line

Discuss!

This has already been discussed in a few other threads......

[VonSenger]

pdj81 said:

Well its finally arrived - news just out on Evo:

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/289339/2013_pors... Newsletters&uid=35da14425c9b9c34368d4fdf9229ae47

What are peoples honest initial impressions ? Im not blown away by the looks but then the whole 991 gen has left me a bit unsure.

No doubt it will be an absolute weapon in either form and id wager strong money that the performance stats are the usual conservative estimates i.e. both cars will be well below 3's when launched off the line

Discuss!

lol, change your ph name to - "the bullet"

[pdj81]

Apologies, thought it was pretty current

[VonSenger]

pdj81 said:

Apologies, thought it was pretty current

Just kidding, I agree with your sentiment, not blown away by the looks myself....

[Carl_Docklands]

Too expensive
too heavy
too wide
not as quick as a mp4
naff looking zaust.

and then I will drive one and I will be in love....


...maybe.

[VonSenger]

Carl_Docklands said:

Too expensive
too heavy
too wide
not as quick as a mp4
naff looking zaust.

and then I will drive one and I will be in love....


...maybe.

I reckon its one of those cars that looks the nuts in the flesh but isnt photogenic......I hope.

[pdj81]

Yeah i think your probably right - in the flesh the car will have a lot of presence and no doubt the 'hips' on it will give it huge stance. talking about too heavy does anyone know the official dry weight ?

[giggle]

Why make 2 models?

I have never understood why make the non s???

It makes no sense at all on a Turbo.

Nobody thinks i want a 911 Turbo but not one of those more powerful s models !!!!

Edited by giggle on Wednesday 8th May 11:56

[Carl_Docklands]

pdj81 said:

Yeah i think your probably right - in the flesh the car will have a lot of presence and no doubt the 'hips' on it will give it huge stance. talking about too heavy does anyone know the official dry weight ?

The Turbo S is just over 1600KG, we won't really know until SportAuto stick both cars onto the weights.

[VonSenger]

giggle said:

Why make 2 models?

I have never understood why make the non s???

It makes no sense at all on a Turbo.

Nobody thinks i want a 911 Turbo but not one of those more powerful s models !!!!

Edited by giggle on Wednesday 8th May 11:56

Because it makes perfect commercial sense, remember, they want to make money, and as much of it as possible.

[s2000db]

Carl_Docklands said:

Too expensive
too heavy
too wide
not as quick as a mp4
naff looking zaust.

and then I will drive one and I will be in love....


...maybe.

Fastest laps has it at 7:26, so might be quicker!

[giggle]

VonSenger said:

giggle said:

Why make 2 models?

I have never understood why make the non s???

It makes no sense at all on a Turbo.

Nobody thinks i want a 911 Turbo but not one of those more powerful s models !!!!

Edited by giggle on Wednesday 8th May 11:56

Because it makes perfect commercial sense, remember, they want to make money, and as much of it as possible.

and how does a non s achieve that?

[hugedouche]

giggle said:

VonSenger said:

giggle said:

Why make 2 models?

I have never understood why make the non s???

It makes no sense at all on a Turbo.

Nobody thinks i want a 911 Turbo but not one of those more powerful s models !!!!

Edited by giggle on Wednesday 8th May 11:56

Because it makes perfect commercial sense, remember, they want to make money, and as much of it as possible.

and how does a non s achieve that?

makes total sense, lower price = more choice = more volume, they do it on all the others model , not every potential new turbo purchaser has or wants to spend 140K.

[kbf1981]

giggle said:

VonSenger said:

giggle said:

Why make 2 models?

I have never understood why make the non s???

It makes no sense at all on a Turbo.

Nobody thinks i want a 911 Turbo but not one of those more powerful s models !!!!

Edited by giggle on Wednesday 8th May 11:56

Because it makes perfect commercial sense, remember, they want to make money, and as much of it as possible.

and how does a non s achieve that?

If they only made the S it'd sound really expensive at £140k..... now they can say the 991 Turbo, just £120k (or whatever) vs. 458 (£170) MP4 (£170).

[kbf1981]

As a side note, I'd bet most of the S's go out at *around* £130k when you work out trade in values and GFV and whatever else.

458 = £200k, probably get 10% off that now though
MP4 = £200k, probably get 20% off

All prices above with options that normal / most customers would add on.

[giggle]

[/quote]
If they only made the S it'd sound really expensive at £140k..... now they can say the 991 Turbo, just £120k (or whatever) vs. 458 (£170) MP4 (£170).
[/quote]

Buyers of new 911 turbos traditionally lose the most money of all Porsche buyers so i fail to see how a "budget" model helps.

[Mario149]

Carl_Docklands said:

Too expensive
not as quick as a mp4

This strikes a chord. I've only ever bought second hand cars and wouldn't buy new unless I had money to burn so am clearly not remotely close to the target demographic. But when a very lightly used MP4 can be had for the same as a new Turbo S (or less as it'll be September then), I'm not sure I could think of any reason to buy the Porsche unless I had 2 very small children.