Monthly budget for running a 911....
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I am seriously contemplating joining the Porsche world but I have absolutely no idea of average running costs. I know this is a VERY open ended question due to the infinite variables but on average, how much would you say is realistic to budget every month to cover servicing, tyres and any nasty surprises???
I am thinking I should budget around 300/ month - too much too little? Assuming no waranty, as I will be running the car abroad (unless the Porsche waranty is redeemable across Europe?).
Car is likely to be either a 996 4s manual or a 997 2s manual. I then start dreaming of 996 Turbos but suspect that is another league in terms of running costs.
Very interested to read about your experiences.
Thanks
H
I am thinking I should budget around 300/ month - too much too little? Assuming no waranty, as I will be running the car abroad (unless the Porsche waranty is redeemable across Europe?).
Car is likely to be either a 996 4s manual or a 997 2s manual. I then start dreaming of 996 Turbos but suspect that is another league in terms of running costs.
Very interested to read about your experiences.
Thanks
H
Try here, but sounds like you need to double the budget IMHO: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
MadMark911 said:
Try here, but sounds like you need to double the budget IMHO: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
That's £7,200 a year!My mate runs a 996 Turbo and all being well spends 2 grand a year without tyres on average - you need to build up a pot for rads and other bits - 4-5 grand would hopefully cover most eventualities.
You'd be hard pushed to blow 600 a month on a 996 unless it was a total dog to start with surely?
mudy said:
That's £7,200 a year!
My mate runs a 996 Turbo and all being well spends 2 grand a year without tyres on average - you need to build up a pot for rads and other bits - 4-5 grand would hopefully cover most eventualities.
You'd be hard pushed to blow 600 a month on a 996 unless it was a total dog to start with surely?
My figures are similar - I seem to average a bit under £2k a year, but with tyres on top (also a 996 turbo).My mate runs a 996 Turbo and all being well spends 2 grand a year without tyres on average - you need to build up a pot for rads and other bits - 4-5 grand would hopefully cover most eventualities.
You'd be hard pushed to blow 600 a month on a 996 unless it was a total dog to start with surely?
£300 a month would certainly cover average maintenance for a 996 turbo if you want one.
HCMH said:
Car is likely to be either a 996 4s manual or a 997 2s manual. I then start dreaming of 996 Turbos but suspect that is another league in terms of running costs.
Keep dreaming the dream- I doubt that 996tt running costs are that much more than a 996C4S; the C4S has a lot of commonality with turbo parts (notably the brakes and suspension components). 996tt may also have the edge in terms of reliability with the Mezger engine. Yes, you have additional things to go wrong, and I suspect fuel economy will also be worse, but you'd probably be pleasantly surprised.Whitean3 said:
Keep dreaming the dream- I doubt that 996tt running costs are that much more than a 996C4S; the C4S has a lot of commonality with turbo parts (notably the brakes and suspension components). 996tt may also have the edge in terms of reliability with the Mezger engine. Yes, you have additional things to go wrong, and I suspect fuel economy will also be worse, but you'd probably be pleasantly surprised.
Fuel economy :According to the computer, I average about 19mpg - most of which is short journeys, which means a tank lasts about 180 miles (I fill up when it gets to about 1/4 of a tank). On long journeys it will hit about 30mpg.
Typically about £65 of Shell's best to fill it up.
I've had my 993 for 15-years, and in about 74,000 miles I have spent £20,433 on servicing, mechanical and tyres during that time.
That averages out @ £1,362.25 per annum, and does not include fuel, insurance or roadtax.
Some years will be much cheaper than the average, but be ready for the dearer years. I've just got mine back from major service with various parts replaced and the bill was over £2,000. I will also need to have an oil leak attended to this year and one or two other bits so this is going be a fairly expensive year.
That averages out @ £1,362.25 per annum, and does not include fuel, insurance or roadtax.
Some years will be much cheaper than the average, but be ready for the dearer years. I've just got mine back from major service with various parts replaced and the bill was over £2,000. I will also need to have an oil leak attended to this year and one or two other bits so this is going be a fairly expensive year.
£3k a year should keep a 996tt in good nick - some years it may be just a service, other years it may be a service and tyres and a radiator or two, but £3k a year average sounds about right to me.
My car does plenty of motorway and plenty of fast A/B road and averages around 19.6mpg, typically £70 for a little over 200 miles.
Almost 300 miles if all motorway, more like 160 miles on Alpine passes!
My car does plenty of motorway and plenty of fast A/B road and averages around 19.6mpg, typically £70 for a little over 200 miles.
Almost 300 miles if all motorway, more like 160 miles on Alpine passes!
Boo152 said:
I've had my 993 for 15-years, and in about 74,000 miles I have spent £20,433 on servicing, mechanical and tyres during that time.
That averages out @ £1,362.25 per annum, and does not include fuel, insurance or roadtax.
Some years will be much cheaper than the average, but be ready for the dearer years. I've just got mine back from major service with various parts replaced and the bill was over £2,000. I will also need to have an oil leak attended to this year and one or two other bits so this is going be a fairly expensive year.
Couple of my mates run 993's and they'd go along with that as an average....maybe a bit more but that might have to do with London labour rates they have to pay. That averages out @ £1,362.25 per annum, and does not include fuel, insurance or roadtax.
Some years will be much cheaper than the average, but be ready for the dearer years. I've just got mine back from major service with various parts replaced and the bill was over £2,000. I will also need to have an oil leak attended to this year and one or two other bits so this is going be a fairly expensive year.
I bought my 996 c4s two years ago and average 6000 miles a year. In that time i have spent £650 on the first big service, and £600 this week on the last service. Main dealer serviced. Apart from four new tires i have had no problems at all. The porsche sports exhaust has a tiny hole in, which porsche said will need replacing next year sometime, at circa £1500 each side. I average 25 mpg. The only thing i will say is that i always wish i had bought the turbo. The c4s is quick, but i realise now i wanted something supercar fast, Which the c4s is not. The car had 30,000 miles on when i bought it with full main dealer history.
I would say £300 per month is perfectly adequate to run a 997 C2S. From what I understand, the official Porsche warranty is international. For instance, if you're abroad and you have a failure you can take it into a European OPC for them to rectify.
Bearing in mind that on a 997 C2S servicing is every 2 years/ 20k miles you could do:
Warranty - £1200 (OPC 1 Year Warranty)
Tyres - £520 (An axle per annum)
Servicing - £700 (Based on £1400 major service with a couple of additional items every other year)
Yearly total: £2420
Of course you would need tax, insurance & fuel on top though. Bottom line is £300 per month is more than adequate providing you buy a decent car in the first place.
Bearing in mind that on a 997 C2S servicing is every 2 years/ 20k miles you could do:
Warranty - £1200 (OPC 1 Year Warranty)
Tyres - £520 (An axle per annum)
Servicing - £700 (Based on £1400 major service with a couple of additional items every other year)
Yearly total: £2420
Of course you would need tax, insurance & fuel on top though. Bottom line is £300 per month is more than adequate providing you buy a decent car in the first place.
Thank you Gents, very kind of you all to give your input on the matter. I am starting my new job at the beginning of next month, which I'll settle into and then pull the plug and go for it. The running costs seem reasonable and I just hope I find a good one to bring over here to Italy.
The turbo route is very tempting!
When the time comes I'm sure I'll be back to the forum to try to find a decent 911.
Cheers and happy driving.
H
The turbo route is very tempting!
When the time comes I'm sure I'll be back to the forum to try to find a decent 911.
Cheers and happy driving.
H
HCMH said:
I am seriously contemplating joining the Porsche world but I have absolutely no idea of average running costs. I know this is a VERY open ended question due to the infinite variables but on average, how much would you say is realistic to budget every month to cover servicing, tyres and any nasty surprises???
I am thinking I should budget around 300/ month - too much too little? Assuming no waranty, as I will be running the car abroad (unless the Porsche waranty is redeemable across Europe?).
Car is likely to be either a 996 4s manual or a 997 2s manual. I then start dreaming of 996 Turbos but suspect that is another league in terms of running costs.
Very interested to read about your experiences.
Thanks
H
To be honest unless you give an idea of the mileage and the use you intend its impossible to even make a guess.I am thinking I should budget around 300/ month - too much too little? Assuming no waranty, as I will be running the car abroad (unless the Porsche waranty is redeemable across Europe?).
Car is likely to be either a 996 4s manual or a 997 2s manual. I then start dreaming of 996 Turbos but suspect that is another league in terms of running costs.
Very interested to read about your experiences.
Thanks
H
If its 12-15K per annum you need to budget annual tyres and maybe brakes - plus lots of fuel.
If its 5K per annum then tyres and brakes will last into subsequent years but you will still need servicing at circa 300-400 per annum.
Insurance and tax may be different where you live but don't forget them.
Nasties could be many thousands - on NA or turbo - 300 and month will not cover these!
Good luck - cracking cars - but running one on a shoestring might be stressful.
6C4GTS said:
To be honest unless you give an idea of the mileage and the use you intend its impossible to even make a guess.
If its 12-15K per annum you need to budget annual tyres and maybe brakes - plus lots of fuel.
If its 5K per annum then tyres and brakes will last into subsequent years but you will still need servicing at circa 300-400 per annum.
Insurance and tax may be different where you live but don't forget them.
Nasties could be many thousands - on NA or turbo - 300 and month will not cover these!
Good luck - cracking cars - but running one on a shoestring might be stressful.
Mileage would be anywhere between 5 to 10k - wife would use during the week as a runaround and then I'd get my hands on it at the weekend. Last thing I want the ownership to be is stressful, so I want to make sure I can afford and budget with ease. Insurance and tax would all be done from the UK - running it on Italian plates is MEGA bucks!!! My current boss runs an RS6, the luxury tax alone is €6k/year. Then there is the cost of Italian plates and the astronomical insurance premiums etc. The gov love to screw the motorist here....and underage hookers! If its 12-15K per annum you need to budget annual tyres and maybe brakes - plus lots of fuel.
If its 5K per annum then tyres and brakes will last into subsequent years but you will still need servicing at circa 300-400 per annum.
Insurance and tax may be different where you live but don't forget them.
Nasties could be many thousands - on NA or turbo - 300 and month will not cover these!
Good luck - cracking cars - but running one on a shoestring might be stressful.
I've run a 6-4S for 2 years now, and it's cost me about £4K in maintenance / repairs replacing all the common parts that go wrong, so about £160 a month if you break it down, plus the usual fuel/tyres/insurance/tax/mot/oil..
If this is your 1st one, I really recommend them, average 24mpg, cheap to buy/run insure, goes over speed bumps, look lovely and goes plenty fast enough for the road and daily driving, excellent cars, you can park them anywhere and if someone kicks the mirrors off it won't ruin your day like a more expensive weekend car might..!
Make sure you have £3K left over after a purchase to cover any nasties that might come to light like a clutch, rads, brakes etc.
If this is your 1st one, I really recommend them, average 24mpg, cheap to buy/run insure, goes over speed bumps, look lovely and goes plenty fast enough for the road and daily driving, excellent cars, you can park them anywhere and if someone kicks the mirrors off it won't ruin your day like a more expensive weekend car might..!
Make sure you have £3K left over after a purchase to cover any nasties that might come to light like a clutch, rads, brakes etc.
Edited by RatBoy M3CSL on Wednesday 10th April 16:03
RatBoy M3CSL said:
I've run a 6-4S for 2 years now, and it's cost me about £4K in maintenance / repairs replacing all the common parts that go wrong, so about £160 a month if you break it down, plus the usual fuel/tyres/insurance/tax/mot/oil..
If this is your 1st one, I really recommend them, average 24mpg, cheap to buy/run insure, goes over speed bumps, look lovely and goes plenty fast enough for the road and daily driving, excellent cars, you can park them anywhere and if someone kicks the mirrors off it won't ruin your day like a more expensive weekend car might..!
Make sure you have £3K left over after a purchase to cover any nasties that might come to light like a clutch, rads, brakes etc.
Thanks for the advice...I will make sure there is a slush fund to start and keep topping up. Tyres will no doubt soak it up as I need winters here as well. Looking forward to being in a position to commit. I have been recommended a good independent, which should help with the whole experience.If this is your 1st one, I really recommend them, average 24mpg, cheap to buy/run insure, goes over speed bumps, look lovely and goes plenty fast enough for the road and daily driving, excellent cars, you can park them anywhere and if someone kicks the mirrors off it won't ruin your day like a more expensive weekend car might..!
Make sure you have £3K left over after a purchase to cover any nasties that might come to light like a clutch, rads, brakes etc.
Edited by RatBoy M3CSL on Wednesday 10th April 16:03
My 997 (2005):
End of Year 1, £0 - just been serviced when I bought it.
Depreciation, about £4k
End of Year 2, about £3k in servicing, brakes all round, tyres all round.
Depreciation, about £4k.
So in 2 years, that £11k. plus about 600p/a insurance and £250 tax (or whatever it costs these days).
So thats around £13k in 2 years, assuming there isn't anything extra on the service.
Remove depreciation and its a helluva lot cheaper.
End of Year 1, £0 - just been serviced when I bought it.
Depreciation, about £4k
End of Year 2, about £3k in servicing, brakes all round, tyres all round.
Depreciation, about £4k.
So in 2 years, that £11k. plus about 600p/a insurance and £250 tax (or whatever it costs these days).
So thats around £13k in 2 years, assuming there isn't anything extra on the service.
Remove depreciation and its a helluva lot cheaper.
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