Testing PSE Today
Discussion
Hi guys
I am a prospective 981S Boxster owner waiting for June production. Similar to most of you I am sleeping with my labtop in the past two months to go through the configurator and forum discussions so I can understand more about PASM, PSE, SC, etc. so I can make up my mind deciding the options. I have until end of April to finalise the list.
Among the options that I am looking into, I consider PSE to be the most interesting. I have never owned nor driven a Porsche before until today but what I can say is I am a sound guy. I came from a MB C63 and it has quite an amazing stock exhaust. What I can find from the many forum discussions seemed to suggest that PSE is a great option. In particular the review from EVO magazine suggested that it is a “must have”. What troubles me is that in one forum discussion one of the owner mentioned that there is some drone at cruising speed and after testing with another car it was concluded that it might be due to the set up of pdk not entirely matched with the PSE, and hence the drone. At one point I am thinking to go MT but from where I am located my dealer told me MT is not yet available. Therefore I am stuck with pdk, which I don’t mind because of the many things it can do.
However, this leaves me some questions in mind:
- Is the drone serious enough to annoy me?
- What will the “PSE” button alone do?
- How much will the “Sport” button add to PSE?
- How much will the “Sport Plus” button add to PSE?
- How “good” is PSE as a whole and is it worth it?
Luckily, today I have a chance to find out all of the above because the dealer told me there is a test car with PSE available. Although I wanted very much to drive a pdk/PSE and a MT/PSE car back to back to complete this controlled experiment but as I mentioned before MT 981 is not available where I am located. After the test drive I can now answer all of the above and I wish to share my experience with anyone considering PSE.
Test car: 981S with SC, PASM, PSE, 20” wheels, pdk.
Everything off: With everything off the car is so comfortable. It sounds like a typical sports car with a sporty note. No drone whatsoever.
PSE button on, everything else off: As other forum members have tested before, this adds very little difference to “PSE off”. However, I can hear a slight increase in sound level especially I think during higher rpm. What I can confirm is that it is definitely louder than “button off” but maybe we all expect a bit more difference in sound level when the button is on to ensure the drama. Again, I don’t realize any drone.
Sport button on, PSE on: This is when the exhaust starts coming to life. Throttle blip, the crackers firing when lifting the throttle, even the sound between gear changes is so fascinating. This is also when I start realizing some drone when the top is up. It happens when I step on the throttle trying to accelerate during higher gear at low rpm (around 2000+rpm) when there is less torque. It is true that there is some drone, but I am glad that it has not breach my tolerance level. Also, this is only more apparent when the top is up. When top down the drone is much less apparent.
Sport plus button on, PSE on: This is when I went to heaven. Everything seems to become more aggressive. I have pdk set to manual because otherwise every gear will be shifted at redline. In this mode, every exhaust note is further exaggerated from the previous Sport button. From throttle blip to off throttle crackle, to every flip of the gear paddles, the character of the sound and aggressiveness reminds me of F1. Although sound level is not up there with the Ferraris, I am sure that it is good enough to keep people smiling every time in the car. Unfortunately drone is also slightly more apparent at the same rpm and drive condition. But what works for me is that at such cruising speed and situation, I would simply switch off PSE and drone seems to disappear.
In any case I have come to my own conclusion. The joy of PSE no doubt outweigh the slight drone at certain drive conditions, and any such situation can easily mitigated by switching off PSE. Also, in my opinion SC is a must have to accompany PSE. It has taken PSE to another level. Notwithstanding its quicker acceleration, in my previous C63 only throttle blip on downshift made me smile. In the 981S PSE/SC equipped car with top down and Sport Plus, every push of the throttle, flip of gear paddle, and downshift blipping make me laugh. Six hours after test drive I am still in between Heaven and Utopia.
I hope this is useful to those interested.
I am a prospective 981S Boxster owner waiting for June production. Similar to most of you I am sleeping with my labtop in the past two months to go through the configurator and forum discussions so I can understand more about PASM, PSE, SC, etc. so I can make up my mind deciding the options. I have until end of April to finalise the list.
Among the options that I am looking into, I consider PSE to be the most interesting. I have never owned nor driven a Porsche before until today but what I can say is I am a sound guy. I came from a MB C63 and it has quite an amazing stock exhaust. What I can find from the many forum discussions seemed to suggest that PSE is a great option. In particular the review from EVO magazine suggested that it is a “must have”. What troubles me is that in one forum discussion one of the owner mentioned that there is some drone at cruising speed and after testing with another car it was concluded that it might be due to the set up of pdk not entirely matched with the PSE, and hence the drone. At one point I am thinking to go MT but from where I am located my dealer told me MT is not yet available. Therefore I am stuck with pdk, which I don’t mind because of the many things it can do.
However, this leaves me some questions in mind:
- Is the drone serious enough to annoy me?
- What will the “PSE” button alone do?
- How much will the “Sport” button add to PSE?
- How much will the “Sport Plus” button add to PSE?
- How “good” is PSE as a whole and is it worth it?
Luckily, today I have a chance to find out all of the above because the dealer told me there is a test car with PSE available. Although I wanted very much to drive a pdk/PSE and a MT/PSE car back to back to complete this controlled experiment but as I mentioned before MT 981 is not available where I am located. After the test drive I can now answer all of the above and I wish to share my experience with anyone considering PSE.
Test car: 981S with SC, PASM, PSE, 20” wheels, pdk.
Everything off: With everything off the car is so comfortable. It sounds like a typical sports car with a sporty note. No drone whatsoever.
PSE button on, everything else off: As other forum members have tested before, this adds very little difference to “PSE off”. However, I can hear a slight increase in sound level especially I think during higher rpm. What I can confirm is that it is definitely louder than “button off” but maybe we all expect a bit more difference in sound level when the button is on to ensure the drama. Again, I don’t realize any drone.
Sport button on, PSE on: This is when the exhaust starts coming to life. Throttle blip, the crackers firing when lifting the throttle, even the sound between gear changes is so fascinating. This is also when I start realizing some drone when the top is up. It happens when I step on the throttle trying to accelerate during higher gear at low rpm (around 2000+rpm) when there is less torque. It is true that there is some drone, but I am glad that it has not breach my tolerance level. Also, this is only more apparent when the top is up. When top down the drone is much less apparent.
Sport plus button on, PSE on: This is when I went to heaven. Everything seems to become more aggressive. I have pdk set to manual because otherwise every gear will be shifted at redline. In this mode, every exhaust note is further exaggerated from the previous Sport button. From throttle blip to off throttle crackle, to every flip of the gear paddles, the character of the sound and aggressiveness reminds me of F1. Although sound level is not up there with the Ferraris, I am sure that it is good enough to keep people smiling every time in the car. Unfortunately drone is also slightly more apparent at the same rpm and drive condition. But what works for me is that at such cruising speed and situation, I would simply switch off PSE and drone seems to disappear.
In any case I have come to my own conclusion. The joy of PSE no doubt outweigh the slight drone at certain drive conditions, and any such situation can easily mitigated by switching off PSE. Also, in my opinion SC is a must have to accompany PSE. It has taken PSE to another level. Notwithstanding its quicker acceleration, in my previous C63 only throttle blip on downshift made me smile. In the 981S PSE/SC equipped car with top down and Sport Plus, every push of the throttle, flip of gear paddle, and downshift blipping make me laugh. Six hours after test drive I am still in between Heaven and Utopia.
I hope this is useful to those interested.
i too have been out this afternoon "testing" my PSE 
sometimes the noise it makes is so obscene you really do laugh out loud! i have noticed some drone in 7th between 1600 and 2300, it is quite bad with the roof up (not noticable with it down IME), though not enough to worry about... i'm interested to see how the sound develops with miles, my 997 PSE got noticably louder the older it got. I do think compared to the 997 PSE the decibel level is lower, again this could just be miles though.
sometimes the noise it makes is so obscene you really do laugh out loud! i have noticed some drone in 7th between 1600 and 2300, it is quite bad with the roof up (not noticable with it down IME), though not enough to worry about... i'm interested to see how the sound develops with miles, my 997 PSE got noticably louder the older it got. I do think compared to the 997 PSE the decibel level is lower, again this could just be miles though.JNG1 said:
Op- you are undoubtedly a colossal bell with all of your intricate and well thought through but frankly crushingly dull questions. A boxster is so definitely for you.
That's not a very nice thing to say. At least he has taken a lot more thought about a post than you have.Chap3748
Thank you for a well thought out insight into PSE, it was an interesting read
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