Porsche record sales, prod numbers for models
Porsche record sales, prod numbers for models
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Old Trout

1,705 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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On average €16,040 profit per car.

Pretty good!

SonnyM

3,473 posts

223 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Confirmation that Porsche is primarily an SUV manufacturer.

edc

9,656 posts

281 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Which territory are the sales from?

Who would have thought the Boxster and Cayman would be the most exclusive Porsche's.

Old Trout

1,705 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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SonnyM said:
Confirmation that Porsche is primarily an SUV manufacturer.
Hardly new news

mollytherocker

14,465 posts

239 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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The comparative low sales of the mid engines are surprising. However, the period shown are the old models nearing the end of their life and the start of 991 sales so I would expect the gap to narrow this year with the 981.

It will be interesting to see if the 991 sales sustain in 2013.

SFO

5,189 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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there are around 9000 more cars produced than sold .. lots of 2012 inventory sitting around in 2013

edc

9,656 posts

281 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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It wouldn't have surprised me if those figures were for Europe or Asia only for example. Not that many people keep their finger in the pulse when it comes to global sales of car marques wink

mollytherocker

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239 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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SFO said:
there are around 9000 more cars produced than sold .. lots of 2012 inventory sitting around in 2013
There will always be a lag of course between production and sales but whether that is too high worldwide I couldn't say.

As a percentage though it seems high.

edc

9,656 posts

281 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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SFO said:
there are around 9000 more cars produced than sold .. lots of 2012 inventory sitting around in 2013
Maybe it's just accounting but 12 orders for 13 delivery may need to be accounted for?

qureshia

4,766 posts

236 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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SFO said:
there are around 9000 more cars produced than sold .. lots of 2012 inventory sitting around in 2013
To be expected where sales are growing, building to meet future demand.
9000 units are only 3 weeks of sales stock days, I expect built is when it comes of the production line and sold is when collected by the customer (registered), in the case of non European countries this lag could be 6 weeks or more (due to sea travel)



KenC

731 posts

265 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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qureshia said:
To be expected where sales are growing, building to meet future demand.
9000 units are only 3 weeks of sales stock days, I expect built is when it comes of the production line and sold is when collected by the customer (registered), in the case of non European countries this lag could be 6 weeks or more (due to sea travel)
On the same basis this would be offset by 2011 built cars in the sold figures for 2012.

mollytherocker

14,465 posts

239 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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KenC said:
On the same basis this would be offset by 2011 built cars in the sold figures for 2012.
Good point

qureshia

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236 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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KenC said:
On the same basis this would be offset by 2011 built cars in the sold figures for 2012.
Probably be the case if sales were flat, but they are growing 22% plus year on year, so the amount of stock need to cover "in transit"/ inventory etc is increasing

Sales increased by 2k units more than production did, so some offset from last year did apply.

More interesting sales of 911s appear to have been flat for years, going back 10 years (2002) Porsche were selling near 30k 911s a year (which is pretty much last years number)


SFO

5,189 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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just pop into any UK OPC, lots of new unsold 981s and 991s ..


Zyp

16,102 posts

219 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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SFO said:
just pop into any UK OPC, lots of new unsold 981s and 991s ..
I thought that, but the reality is there is a distinct lack of 981 S's but lots of 991 S's.

Wudee

269 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Usa sales up 30% and i think china even more. That is where they are going.

franki68

11,657 posts

251 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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qureshia said:
Probably be the case if sales were flat, but they are growing 22% plus year on year, so the amount of stock need to cover "in transit"/ inventory etc is increasing

Sales increased by 2k units more than production did, so some offset from last year did apply.

More interesting sales of 911s appear to have been flat for years, going back 10 years (2002) Porsche were selling near 30k 911s a year (which is pretty much last years number)
I was told that 997 sales dropped 20% every year from 2008- ,the finacncial crisis and for the first time the 911 had proper competition (r8 and GTR)probably explain why.

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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franki68 said:
I was told that 997 sales dropped 20% every year from 2008- ,the finacncial crisis and for the first time the 911 had proper competition (r8 and GTR)probably explain why.
More importantly i think 997 was when Porsche finally stopped trying to be compete with the so-called 'top' high end brands,i.e low production/high price and went for the Bmw/Audi/Merc names as their competition in high volume production..the fact people compare 911's with Datsuns sums up how different Porsche have come as a brand on a relative basis in the last 30 years.