Do you change your oil after track days?
Discussion
Can't hurt and it's your money / P&J! 
Personally, I have the oil changed in my cars every year, regardless of mileage as I think the 2 year service intervals are rediculous on a high performance car. So in the GT3 that meant that it was changed after only 3,000 miles (1,500 miles in my tenure), but I swear she ran smoother after it was done!
Personally, I have the oil changed in my cars every year, regardless of mileage as I think the 2 year service intervals are rediculous on a high performance car. So in the GT3 that meant that it was changed after only 3,000 miles (1,500 miles in my tenure), but I swear she ran smoother after it was done!
PHOENIXUK said:
Of course it will not hurt but IMHO waste of money, Mobil1 and the like will take all you can offer, take the advice of the dealer.
I hear what you are saying, however I would be VERY surprised if the service deck jockeys know anything about oil technology. They only know about service book guidelines from what I can tell.I will probably be happy now for another 3-4 track days. I just think that running in and track days on the same oil doesn't feel quite right.
PHOENIXUK said:
Of course it will not hurt but IMHO waste of money, Mobil1 and the like will take all you can offer, take the advice of the dealer.
I am not 100% sure on this but I could swear someone who works for one of the Oil manufacturers, Castrol I think said after about 12,000 road miles the oil's protective properties are not as good when fresh.As such a track day vastly changes that and I change my oil always after a track day or every 5000-6000 miles.
Oil change = 100
New engine =
Whats for sure by 20,000 miles the oil is not protecting the engine as well as it was at 1000 miles!!
Gibbo205 said:
I am not 100% sure on this but I could swear someone who works for one of the Oil manufacturers, Castrol I think said after about 12,000 road miles the oil's protective properties are not as good when fresh.
As such a track day vastly changes that and I change my oil always after a track day or every 5000-6000 miles.
Oil change = 100
New engine =
Whats for sure by 20,000 miles the oil is not protecting the engine as well as it was at 1000 miles!!
No I am not a 100% sure either, thats why it is my opinion.As such a track day vastly changes that and I change my oil always after a track day or every 5000-6000 miles.
Oil change = 100
New engine =
Whats for sure by 20,000 miles the oil is not protecting the engine as well as it was at 1000 miles!!
Edited by PHOENIXUK on Friday 15th March 14:48
If we are just putting out our changes, I do engine oil every track weekend, transmission oil every 4.
As I said above, send some used oil away for analysis and see exactly how it is. No more guessing and you know exactly whether you can run longer or need to shorten.
I've only used blackstone labs but there will be places closer.
It was $35 for a full test which includes amount of additives left. This lets you know how its standing up if you want to work out when to change.
Everyone's uses it differently so if you're at all interested this removes any guessing. You know exactly what schedule you need to be on.
As I said above, send some used oil away for analysis and see exactly how it is. No more guessing and you know exactly whether you can run longer or need to shorten.
I've only used blackstone labs but there will be places closer.
It was $35 for a full test which includes amount of additives left. This lets you know how its standing up if you want to work out when to change.
Everyone's uses it differently so if you're at all interested this removes any guessing. You know exactly what schedule you need to be on.
Edited by fioran0 on Friday 15th March 15:13
Run in for me is a change after 1000 miles.
Track day is alledged to be around 10 times as hard on the car as normal (hard to quantify as depends on your normal driving and on track driving) so take the track day mileage and adjust into your service schedule.
Once a year oil change minimum IMO.
Track day is alledged to be around 10 times as hard on the car as normal (hard to quantify as depends on your normal driving and on track driving) so take the track day mileage and adjust into your service schedule.
Once a year oil change minimum IMO.
fioran0 said:
If we are just putting out our changes, I do engine oil every track weekend, transmission oil every 4.
As I said above, send some used oil away for analysis and see exactly how it is. No more guessing and you know exactly whether you can run longer or need to shorten.
I've only used blackstone labs but there will be places closer.
It was $35 for a full test which includes amount of additives left. This lets you know how its standing up if you want to work out when to change.
Everyone's uses it differently so if you're at all interested this removes any guessing. You know exactly what schedule you need to be on.
Transmission oil is that same as gearbox oil m8?As I said above, send some used oil away for analysis and see exactly how it is. No more guessing and you know exactly whether you can run longer or need to shorten.
I've only used blackstone labs but there will be places closer.
It was $35 for a full test which includes amount of additives left. This lets you know how its standing up if you want to work out when to change.
Everyone's uses it differently so if you're at all interested this removes any guessing. You know exactly what schedule you need to be on.
Edited by fioran0 on Friday 15th March 15:13
Is it a big job on a 997.1 C2S or pretty simple like oil change? How much and what type of oil is required?
Old Trout said:
As per the title?
My car has just done a track day on the same oil it was run in on and the better part of me suggests it would be good to change it (5,500 miles).
It is getting done at the moment at but the OPC have tried to talk me out of it twice now.
I would have advised you to change the oil *before* the track day. the run in (original oil fill) oil no doubt is full of trash and dilution from water and unburned gasoline. New engines are known for that.My car has just done a track day on the same oil it was run in on and the better part of me suggests it would be good to change it (5,500 miles).
It is getting done at the moment at but the OPC have tried to talk me out of it twice now.
Best is to go to the track with fresh oil. Then if you want to drive the car with that track oil in it you can, though of course there are various things to consider. If your idea of tracking is to do it every chance you get in the good weather months then drive the car for short trips in the bad weather, I'd suggest you change the oil at the beginning and at the end of track season and possibly at least once in between.
Oh, whenever a dealer or OPC tries to talk me out of having some service done (like an oil/filter service) I always listen politely then insist on the work being done. My money. If I want to change the oil every week that's my business. If the dealer/OPC balks I would ask the GM where he would suggest I take my cars for service? His service department apparently doesn't want my business. and I would remind him where I have my cars serviced is from where I'll likely buy my next car.
PHOENIXUK said:
Of course it will not hurt but IMHO waste of money, Mobil1 and the like will take all you can offer, take the advice of the dealer.
This is poor advise in my opinion, Mobil 1 (0W40) although a good oil by all accounts its not really designed or intended for track use, especially if still unchanged from factory. If your doing several track days I would consider using one of the more track focused oils from the likes of Millers or Fuchs.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff