Boxster Crash Story
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HoHoHo said:
Zyp said:
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t a brick!
I've always wondered how that type of barrier would hold up in an impact.
Better than your face is the answer!t a brick!I've always wondered how that type of barrier would hold up in an impact.
Lucky, lucky woman and I'm glad only the car appears to be a write-off.
What I meant was if the barrier could keep a car on its own carriageway - which it did in this instance.
They just look a bit feeble.
The other thing is, the metal rope must be at quite a tension - twanging into a car....
Wo! I'm pleased to see the driver has made a really good recovery.
I read about a similar thing a few years ago when a guy in an old english sports car, like an MGB or something suffered very similar injuries, eg almost being decapitated.
I'm always wary when I see those barriers, they're lethal.
I read about a similar thing a few years ago when a guy in an old english sports car, like an MGB or something suffered very similar injuries, eg almost being decapitated.
I'm always wary when I see those barriers, they're lethal.
marky911 said:
I'm always wary when I see those barriers, they're lethal.
They certainly look a danger to anyone unfortunate to hit them. How does the HA or whoever is responsible get away with putting something like that up? Surely there are better and more to the point, safer, barriers?I would not have thought those sort of injuries would be sustained aqua planing into Armco or similar at 50mph.
REALIST123 said:
They certainly look a danger to anyone unfortunate to hit them. How does the HA or whoever is responsible get away with putting something like that up? Surely there are better and more to the point, safer, barriers?
I would not have thought those sort of injuries would be sustained aqua planing into Armco or similar at 50mph.
Yep there are but as usual these days it'll be down to price. A few hundred metres of tightly pulled cable is cheaper then a few hundred metres of formed steel barrier.I would not have thought those sort of injuries would be sustained aqua planing into Armco or similar at 50mph.
I'd be very surprised if someone doesn't look into a legal battle at some point after sustaining injuries, although I guess the councils/HA will just say "It stopped your vehicle so it worked didn't it?".
Not a nice solution to a problem though and I feel for anyone that suffers due to them.
REALIST123 said:
marky911 said:
I'm always wary when I see those barriers, they're lethal.
They certainly look a danger to anyone unfortunate to hit them. How does the HA or whoever is responsible get away with putting something like that up? Surely there are better and more to the point, safer, barriers?I would not have thought those sort of injuries would be sustained aqua planing into Armco or similar at 50mph.
I hit one of those tensioned cable barriers in the G33. It rode up over the bonnet all the way to the windscreen. It looked like someone had taken a giant grater to the car, if I had been going any faster or the windscreen hadn’t held up then the cables would have entered the car at my neck height.
I wonder if she will get a bill for the barrier from the highways agency, I did!
I wonder if she will get a bill for the barrier from the highways agency, I did!
Edited by blueg33 on Friday 15th March 11:54
From another forum:
There are several reasons why cable wire barriers are used. Firstly they are easier to maintain. When a traditional barrier is hit all the posts and damaged barrier have to be replaced, while as long as it is not a substantial hit,only theposts on cable wirehave tobe replaced, with the wire just retensioned.
The other reason is that they are used in areas where heavy snowfall in winter is experinced. Traditional barriers can lead to snow drifts as the snow builds up against the barrier, while the cable wire design lets the snow blow through.
I was involved in the design and contract supervisionof the barrier erection along the A34 between J13 of the M4 and the Berkshire / Oxforshire boundary in the late 80's. At Gore Hill, cable wire was used to due the high levels of snow fall which occur there during the winter months.
There are several reasons why cable wire barriers are used. Firstly they are easier to maintain. When a traditional barrier is hit all the posts and damaged barrier have to be replaced, while as long as it is not a substantial hit,only theposts on cable wirehave tobe replaced, with the wire just retensioned.
The other reason is that they are used in areas where heavy snowfall in winter is experinced. Traditional barriers can lead to snow drifts as the snow builds up against the barrier, while the cable wire design lets the snow blow through.
I was involved in the design and contract supervisionof the barrier erection along the A34 between J13 of the M4 and the Berkshire / Oxforshire boundary in the late 80's. At Gore Hill, cable wire was used to due the high levels of snow fall which occur there during the winter months.
It does seem that a lot of new road surfaces are shocking at retaining water and all flood very easily.
I don't think that section of the A14 has seen any significant snow fall in a long time (other than the other year). I can remember driving home from Wellingborough in the snow and the A14 was in a terrible state to find the A1 completely clear as if it had never snowed.
I don't think that section of the A14 has seen any significant snow fall in a long time (other than the other year). I can remember driving home from Wellingborough in the snow and the A14 was in a terrible state to find the A1 completely clear as if it had never snowed.
I notice on most new dual carriageways they're installing concrete dividers now ( certainly on the whole section of new A46 in Notts.
I recall recently reading about a crash where a lorry would most certainly have gone through a traditional Armco, but just bounced off the new concrete one.
Having known of someone being killed on the M6 when an artic went through the Armco onto the other side and hit this chap in his car head on, perhaps concrete is the way forward.
I recall recently reading about a crash where a lorry would most certainly have gone through a traditional Armco, but just bounced off the new concrete one.
Having known of someone being killed on the M6 when an artic went through the Armco onto the other side and hit this chap in his car head on, perhaps concrete is the way forward.
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