With more money and much more talent.................
With more money and much more talent.................
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Trev450

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6,760 posts

202 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Slippydiff

16,413 posts

253 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Ah yes ,"the fatest 997 RSR in Europe"

Much as I'm a Porsche fan, I'd rather have this :







David Hype

2,296 posts

282 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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nono Sorry, but I would still take the Porsche...

freedman

6,017 posts

237 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I think Manthey might take issue with the fastest RSR claim

The Game

2,324 posts

211 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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freedman said:
I think Manthey might take issue with the fastest RSR claim
Read it again.

steve singh

3,995 posts

203 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Slippydiff said:
Ah yes ,"the fatest 997 RSR in Europe"

Much as I'm a Porsche fan, I'd rather have this :






Those exhausts tips just don't match the car - would have thought either 4 exhausts or bigger exhausts?

Old Trout

1,705 posts

205 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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"No big crashes."

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majordad

3,631 posts

227 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Looks suspiciously cheap IMHO, €150K equals £120K Stg. You would be in 997 Cup money there.

fioran0

2,410 posts

202 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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25hr engine and 20hr gearbox is why.
Sale price again right away to rebuild.

fioran0

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202 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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steve singh said:
Those exhausts tips just don't match the car - would have thought either 4 exhausts or bigger exhausts?
I suspect that the designers and those running the car may have had more tangible things involved in the decision than "thinking" or concerning themselves with what looked cool.

You don't see quad tailpipes and big bore demon tweeks exhausts in F1 either.

The RSR exhaust is made from inconel. One header is approximately $15k.

Edited by fioran0 on Friday 21st December 19:47

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Yep, I'd happily race a turd if it was quick.

steve singh

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203 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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fioran0 said:
steve singh said:
Those exhausts tips just don't match the car - would have thought either 4 exhausts or bigger exhausts?
I suspect that the designers and those running the car may have had more tangible things involved in the decision than "thinking" or concerning themselves with what looked cool.

You don't see quad tailpipes and big bore demon tweeks exhausts in F1 either.

The RSR exhaust is made from inconel. One header is approximately $15k.

Edited by fioran0 on Friday 21st December 19:47
Not referring to style over substance - though seems these days you have to operate with a lawyer like mentality (with small print adjoining every pos)t on pistonheads given the sheer amout of posters who seem simply want to pick up the most obscure interpretation possible so they can get on their high horse to give someone a virtual beating.

More so I was referring to the actual mechanical side, they look like they come off a micra yet i'm guessing just by looking at the car they must have a hefty engine in there (though obviously a light body shell - even a bmw 325 had bigger looking exhaust and i would have thought the car would need a bigger exhaust set to expend the fumes more effectively).




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Slippydiff

16,413 posts

253 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Just for reference. Size isn't everything . . . . .

996 Cup exhaust pea shooters :



Audi Sport Quattro S2 circa 500-550hp


steve singh

3,995 posts

203 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Slippydiff said:
Just for reference. Size isn't everything . . . . .

996 Cup exhaust pea shooters :

Bloody hell - i always thought faster cars typicallly have larger exhaust in order to let exhaust fumes exit more quickly - just goes to show that the standard manufacturers are over sizing exhaust as a marketing angle???

fioran0

2,410 posts

202 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Well ask why it's only got two tailpipes that don't look very large rather than making a statement about what you think it should have based on nothing at all.

There's no stupid question if its genuinely intended.



fioran0

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202 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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In extremely crude terms, Size impacts flow velocity on NA cars. Having the optimal diameter ensures max velocity is achieved which then maximises gas removal. Too large and you lose velocity. Bigger is not always better.

fioran0

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Friday 21st December 2012
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steve singh said:
Bloody hell - i always thought faster cars typicallly have larger exhaust in order to let exhaust fumes exit more quickly - just goes to show that the standard manufacturers are over sizing exhaust as a marketing angle???
Don't confuse tailpipe sizes and quantity with exhaust system diameters. Many manufacturers have large tailpipe (trims) for image. You need to get under the car and look at the actual pipework to assess the actual system size.

steve singh

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203 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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fioran0 said:
Well ask why it's only got two tailpipes that don't look very large rather than making a statement about what you think it should have based on nothing at all.

There's no stupid question if its genuinely intended.
I'll ask whatever i like thank you - but will admit i rely on a common sense approach to a reading of a question based on prevailing mainstream logic.

If i said, that car would look "slamming" and "wicked" if it had 4 exhaust pipes then fair enough, but for most of the car buying public and i suspect posters on even these forums there is implied correlation between power and the nature of exhaust pipe.

The marketing bods have obviously tapped into this, but when the 430 has quad exhaust pipe and this has 2 smaller exhaust pipes most i suspect would naturally think hmmm i would have thought this would have restricted the flow of gases, how strange.


Eta: anyhow thanks for the subsequent responses - i'm surprised at how much manufacturers have exaggerated the size of exhaust relative to what's required - recognise the marketing angle but even a 325i had similar sized exhaust to that fezza

Edited by steve singh on Friday 21st December 23:00

DS240

5,734 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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When you look at a lot of the performance cars, the fancy bright exhaust tip is there for show and just behind it is a much smaller pipe of the actual exhaust.

I think the Bentley GT is where I last really noticed it.