Heals, toes, left feet and dopey team mates
Heals, toes, left feet and dopey team mates
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Steve Rance

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5,453 posts

261 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Found this as well. In car at Brands in a 996Cup. This was early in my cup car driving career. I've learned a lot since then and wouldn't drive one like that now but it may be interesting all the same. Got the lap record during that weekend. God knows how..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i6e_vnGivU&fea...

supermono

7,464 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Good link. It's definitely heels. Heal is a verb meaning to self repair. Heel is the opposite end of your foot from your toes.

SM

David Hype

2,296 posts

282 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Great link and some nifty footwork there Steve!

majordad

3,631 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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And though he was down at heel in this race heal go places in Porsche racing !!

BertBert

21,286 posts

241 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Was that ending what I thought it was? Eeek

thegoose

8,077 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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That looks like how I <like to think that I> drive around there, although using fewer gears (2rd/3rd/4th only) and left foot braking for Graham Hill bend as well as Surtees.

Steve Rance

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Thursday 22nd November 2012
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BertBert said:
Was that ending what I thought it was? Eeek
Yep and the guy driving the red 964 was one of my team mates. Caused a few problems in the Paddock with one of my sponsors who'd brought about 50 guests along. On reflection, I should have just blocked off the guy behind me and waited.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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going well there mate..

what happened to the gearbox?

Steve Rance

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261 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Holed a rad. Game over in a water cooled

mollytherocker

14,467 posts

239 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Great video Steve, it really adds to the drama showing your techniques close up. You are obviously a very accomplished driver.

Would it be fair to say that your being a little bit frenetic and maybe need to be a touch smoother?

Don't mean to be critical by the way, you are a far better driver than me, just interested in your view.

Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 22 November 20:57

Steve Rance

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Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Yep. Partly because it was an endurance event and I was on full tanks and parly because my technique wasn't right. If you get a chance to see the other film that I posted up, you will see how a cup car should be driven. Everything is a learning process. The trick is to be open to learn I suppose.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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what lap times can you chalk round both circuits Steve and in what cars?

Robbo66

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263 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Proper eye opener. Cracking.

Steve Rance

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Thursday 22nd November 2012
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That weekend I did a 49.4ish which at the time was a class lap record I think in the 996. I think that the way I would drive it now I'd expect a low 48. In the 997 I'd expect a low 47. To give you an idea of how much quicker the 997 is, i did a 50.3 in torrential rain with standing water and i was 5th quickest. Harvey did a 50.1. thats fast in those conditions. Don't recall my times around the GP in the 996. I remember sticking the 997 on pole in the GT cup with a 1.31 on the GP circuit which was a lap record at the time. We had a lot of trouble getting the control Dunlops to work and I had to change my driving style to compensate for the geo changes. Joerg, my engineer reckoned that the Michelin was worth 1.5 - 2 seconds there so a mid to high 1.29 would be my target. This is in a stock 2008 997. The new cars are a lot quicker.

Edited by Steve Rance on Thursday 22 November 22:06

jackwood

2,970 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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You go straight from 4th to 2nd?

BertBert

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241 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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I thought there was a nasty 2nd gear into paddock too!

Steve Rance

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Friday 23rd November 2012
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Yep. I didn't drive well that day. Made a few mistakes and that was one that I remember. I think that you can see the motec over rev light come on. It's good practice never to get flustered when you are racing but I did after the off. Looking back at that footage, my technique has changed so much in Cup cars since those early days. I use this footage to compare to later footage when I'm instructing drivers. They find it very helpful. These days I'm a lot later on the brakes and earlier on the throttle and employ a technique which allows the driver to be smoother and less demanding on his tyres. I also do not left foot brake a lot less. Other than that the footwork is just as frenetic. Some things can't ever really change.

For you guys who are interested in the argument between PDK and manual on the 991GT3, have a look at the 996/997 flat shift thread that I posted. You may find that interesting

Steve Rance

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Friday 23rd November 2012
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jackwood said:
You go straight from 4th to 2nd?
Yes. A lot of drivers like to be able to miss gears on downshifts especially if they've gone too deep or are a little late on the brakes.

Steve Rance

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Friday 23rd November 2012
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Something else that you may find interesting is how the car is behaving because of its weight. Because of the series rules it's carrying 50kg of ballast which combined with the feul load makes the car quite difficult. This was a real bugbear of mine because I was invariably racing against class 1 cars that had no power weight or aero restrictions. I think that both cars behind me has 600 and 800 bhp.

jackwood

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Friday 23rd November 2012
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Steve Rance said:
Yes. A lot of drivers like to be able to miss gears on downshifts especially if they've gone too deep or are a little late on the brakes.
Would you use that technique say at Oulton, coming round Island up to Shell Oil?