993 cage ?
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jackal

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11,251 posts

312 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Was there ever an official half cage in the RS ? I always thought that the only cage was the m002 matter cage with a full front and dash section, the sane as an RSR cage but just missing the extra crossing piece across the doors.

I am thinking about fitting a welded in cage but a part of me does not want the a pillar sections or the pieces across the door. That said, i want a significant upgrade in chassus stiffness and also would like to preserve factory originality.

Edited by jackal on Tuesday 2nd October 16:14

clubsport

7,415 posts

288 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Jackal, M002 is the regular 993RS, it was the M003 CS variant which had the welded in full matter cage.

Most bolt in cages fitted at the time were Heigo, who I beleive are no longer in business.

Having driven/owned both the bolt in cages are ok to mount your harness belts, but the bolt in cage is hardly noticeable compared to it's absence, you need a welded in cage if you are concerned about rigidity.

You can only really feel the difference on track, or on the road when you bump your head on it!

jackal

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11,251 posts

312 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Sorry, meant m002

Dont fancy bolt in. How about copying the full CS cage but omitting everything forward of the b billar.

stuttgartmetal

8,164 posts

246 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Just a rear cage ?

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

261 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Tony Littlejohn of GTR Motorsport will recreate the rear section for you in the correct tubing ..

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Would you get any worthwhile stiffness in just a rear weld in cage? Or could you creat a handling imbalance by having a "tight" back end & a "loose" front?

alps028

106 posts

200 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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993RS CS models for Australia had a dealer installed bolt-in cage due to local regulations, so that could be considered original. I haven't seen a good bolt in full cage, they all interfere with window winders, door pulls etc. Better to go the whole way and get a welded in M003 cage but that means bare shell fitting/respray. Might as well go for sunroof delete while you're at it. Single down tube CS door guard is not that intrusive, just have to lift the leg over. Double tube Cup/RSR is more work.

jackal

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11,251 posts

312 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Would you get any worthwhile stiffness in just a rear weld in cage? Or could you creat a handling imbalance by having a "tight" back end & a "loose" front?
This is my worry .. Would it actually help much.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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jackal said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Would you get any worthwhile stiffness in just a rear weld in cage? Or could you create a handling imbalance by having a "tight" back end & a "loose" front?
This is my worry .. Would it actually help much.
Do you actually feel the structure needs stiffening? I only ask as in the past you've said an RS clone interior would reduce the practicality of your car thus your enjoyment?

jackal

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11,251 posts

312 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Do you actually feel the structure needs stiffening? I only ask as in the past you've said an RS clone interior would reduce the practicality of your car thus your enjoyment?
yes i do ... i find the chassis soft as hell and would love to stiffen it up and add some torsional rigidity

ride and handling and road manners are spot on now (although its taken 3 years to get there !)

have the clubby front brace at the front so a cage is the next natural step

I have also decided to remove the rear seats in any case .... its only very rarely that anyone else gets in it

might try and source some proper RS buckets as well and go the whole hog

jackal

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312 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Steve Rance said:
Tony Littlejohn of GTR Motorsport will recreate the rear section for you in the correct tubing ..
hi steve, do yu have a number ?

i tried one website but i dont think it was the right one