997 - Puddle in rear offside footwell
997 - Puddle in rear offside footwell
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boomer1971

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7 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I'm pretty sure I haven't inadvertently dumped a gallon of water on my backseat .... but have discovered a couple of centimetres of water in rear footwell meaning all the carpet on drivers side is sodden. Anyone aware of a way water can get in there common to a 997 C2 cab?

sadlerj

856 posts

314 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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ISFGB... bring her round Sunday afternoon and I can have a go at fixing if you like...

When the rainwater runs off the roof it drains internally and is diverted into an open plastic drain channel, from which it runs down into what is probably best decribed as a hopper - as opposed to a resevoir. From the bottom of the hopper there is a 10/12mm dia outlet which extends, via a tube - I think - down to another plastic outlet set into the internal rear wheel arch. This area of the wheel arch is covered by the plastic internal arch liner. Any water that overflows from the hopper - this better describes the item rather than resevoir - doesn't run onto the surface of the carpet, but behind it where it then soaks into the 50mm thick dense foam backing to the carpet. Even with a good 10mm of water in the foot wells you won't feel the carpet damp.This really is a simple DIY job - the hardest part is getting the large rear wheels back on! There are just three washered nuts holding the plastic liner in place but it will not come out without removing the wheel.



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A small plastic drain tray runs along the side wall behind the inner upholstery panel beside each back seat. A right angle fitting leads from the low point, sideways through the inner body panel and into the void ahead of the rear tire. If you remove the rear wheel, then the forward side wheel well liner, all you see is the metal body panel right behind it.

Almost at the bottom of the body panel is the outlet for the drain tube. The outlet itself is a simple plastic check valve with a rubber flapper valve about the size of a nickel. Therein lies the problem. The rubber was stiff with age, and gummed up about 90% with the same kind of crud you clean out of your gutters ... fine, wet, black gunk. When my car was out in the pouring rain at the airport for 2 days, the 10% drain capacity left was clearly not enough to handle the water flow, and a gallon or so ended up in my back seat floor.

I pulled the flapper off, blew out the drain with air, then soaked the flapper in Lexol conditioner to soften it before reinstalling. Considered leaving the rubber flapper off, but was afraid that road debris might come in the other way to block it. Going to pull the driver's side wheel and liner tomorrow.

sadlerj

856 posts

314 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

209 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Good god, what a spectacularly detailed and comprehensive answer.

boomer1971

Original Poster:

7 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Mr Sadler - you are a superstar .... aren't you the guy that was on BBC news at the weekend being intereviewed in a muddy field at Silverstone?

jackliebling

509 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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my 997.2 was in he dealer twice in the last month trying to fix that problem. They sorted it second time around.

This seems to me to be a major design fault...

Carlton Banks

3,676 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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If Carlsberg gave answers to threads on Pistonheads, this would be the one they would choose.

stuckmojo

4,096 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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This answer helps me too. I found out I have dampness in the footwell(rear).


IanHug

414 posts

267 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Just had mine looked at for the front footwell - turned out to be the membrane inside the door that had failed and seemed like a common fault. Fixed under the extended warranty.

Liszt

4,337 posts

300 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Have you tried those big incontinance pants for old men?

Failing that don't take cups of tea from Costa into your motor. Take it in to someonelse's car to spill

wink

sadlerj

856 posts

314 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Cheers guys...just cut and paste from Renn Forum really, I had a good Google. Look forward to unblocking your pipes Boomer on Sunday. Just check they are blocked first mate, as that may not be the issue..

Trev450

6,762 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Mods, how about making this excellent advice a sticky?

boomer1971

Original Poster:

7 posts

199 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Jim lad ... despite your expert efforts I got some more water in ... I spoke with Porsche and they said "we" need to clear it out from above also ... will attempt to do that at the weekend before giving up and bribing you with doom bar again !! redface)

Liszt

4,337 posts

300 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Doombar you say? Bring it to mine next weekend. We'll get the wet and dry vac on it then blow your tubes through. wink