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I dont fully agree... how much can you really thrash a demo car... with 85% of the test drives happening with the sales guy sitting next to you... and what does thrashing mean ? driving hard a car which is supposed... to be driven hard ? Thrashed would be a car used on a track.. that is proper thrashing, these cars have so much spare capacity in the normal world that they dont come close to being thrashed..
What I would worry about would be running-in .. that i would be more concerned about. Having 7k revs on a barely new engine is not exactly what i would look for in a car. Same for lack of proper warm-up of the engine.. would the average sales guy make sure the engine is at temperature before letting his beloved customer have a go ? Not sure..
Maybe a static demo better idea.. they do tend to discount those too.
But at the end of the day.. I am not sure the discount would be sufficient to make me go for it. At the end of the day you are spending 55-60k on a sports cars. Another 5k for the new thing built to your spec is probably worth it. When looking for used, I do tend to avoid first ownership from manufacturer.. you just ask.. when you have not private individual as first owner.. its generally a demo. Porsche UK Ltd is also a giveaway
What I would worry about would be running-in .. that i would be more concerned about. Having 7k revs on a barely new engine is not exactly what i would look for in a car. Same for lack of proper warm-up of the engine.. would the average sales guy make sure the engine is at temperature before letting his beloved customer have a go ? Not sure..
Maybe a static demo better idea.. they do tend to discount those too.
But at the end of the day.. I am not sure the discount would be sufficient to make me go for it. At the end of the day you are spending 55-60k on a sports cars. Another 5k for the new thing built to your spec is probably worth it. When looking for used, I do tend to avoid first ownership from manufacturer.. you just ask.. when you have not private individual as first owner.. its generally a demo. Porsche UK Ltd is also a giveaway
mollytherocker said:
Mutt said:
The demo I drove, I warmed it up, and thrashed it from 10 miles on the clock.
Buy new.
It might seem silly to some people, but I would never do that, not even on a Fiesta.Buy new.
MTR
rosino said:
I dont fully agree... how much can you really thrash a demo car... with 85% of the test drives happening with the sales guy sitting next to you... and what does thrashing mean ? driving hard a car which is supposed... to be driven hard ? Thrashed would be a car used on a track.. that is proper thrashing, these cars have so much spare capacity in the normal world that they dont come close to being thrashed..
What I would worry about would be running-in .. that i would be more concerned about. Having 7k revs on a barely new engine is not exactly what i would look for in a car. Same for lack of proper warm-up of the engine.. would the average sales guy make sure the engine is at temperature before letting his beloved customer have a go ? Not sure..
Maybe a static demo better idea.. they do tend to discount those too.
But at the end of the day.. I am not sure the discount would be sufficient to make me go for it. At the end of the day you are spending 55-60k on a sports cars. Another 5k for the new thing built to your spec is probably worth it. When looking for used, I do tend to avoid first ownership from manufacturer.. you just ask.. when you have not private individual as first owner.. its generally a demo. Porsche UK Ltd is also a giveaway
In my case it was no salesman as the first person to drive the car any distance. So it wasn't run in.What I would worry about would be running-in .. that i would be more concerned about. Having 7k revs on a barely new engine is not exactly what i would look for in a car. Same for lack of proper warm-up of the engine.. would the average sales guy make sure the engine is at temperature before letting his beloved customer have a go ? Not sure..
Maybe a static demo better idea.. they do tend to discount those too.
But at the end of the day.. I am not sure the discount would be sufficient to make me go for it. At the end of the day you are spending 55-60k on a sports cars. Another 5k for the new thing built to your spec is probably worth it. When looking for used, I do tend to avoid first ownership from manufacturer.. you just ask.. when you have not private individual as first owner.. its generally a demo. Porsche UK Ltd is also a giveaway
rosino said:
I dont fully agree... how much can you really thrash a demo car... with 85% of the test drives happening with the sales guy sitting next to you... and what does thrashing mean ? driving hard a car which is supposed... to be driven hard ? Thrashed would be a car used on a track.. that is proper thrashing, these cars have so much spare capacity in the normal world that they dont come close to being thrashed..
The issue is that at 7pm if the salesperson has the keys to the 981 that has been sat there all day will he worry about getting the cars upto temperature ? OPC salespeople are similar to most VAG guys it's not there car so if you rag it from cold it's no skin off their back.Porsche might even be worse with customers who are succesful buisness men tight for time wanting to spend their dividends. Sorry mr salesguy I have 1o mins. Salesguy, sorry sir the car needs at least 10 mins before you can floor it If the salesperson was using his own car he would care, they dont
Smirnoffmark said:
What's everyones view of paddles vs buttons? Light fuse, stand back...
The buttons are shocking. I am astounded that they are continuing with them.Having said that, the paddles are not THAT much better. At first, the F1 slant is exciting but it soon wears off.
Manual all the way.
MTR
Downsides -
Increased maintenance costs due to poor treatment
Decreased resale value
Not your preferred spec
Upside -
No wait
Whatever discount you get [above any on a new model]
Hard to quantify all of this but if you are happy with the spec then I'd be inclined to offer in the region of 20% lower than the cost of the car new.
Increased maintenance costs due to poor treatment
Decreased resale value
Not your preferred spec
Upside -
No wait
Whatever discount you get [above any on a new model]
Hard to quantify all of this but if you are happy with the spec then I'd be inclined to offer in the region of 20% lower than the cost of the car new.
Car will come with a long warrantee. What is there to worry about??? Enjoy the discount and don't worry.
I speak from experience. I bought an ex management (perhaps experience) car with 900 miles on the clock. I even saw pics of my car in a magazine being driven on the experience track.
Car ran perfectly and was no problem.
Go for it. Anything goes wrong in the first couple of years it'll be fixed free of charge and anyway, how long will you keep it?
I speak from experience. I bought an ex management (perhaps experience) car with 900 miles on the clock. I even saw pics of my car in a magazine being driven on the experience track.
Car ran perfectly and was no problem.
Go for it. Anything goes wrong in the first couple of years it'll be fixed free of charge and anyway, how long will you keep it?
Not a problem with my Boxster, but this week we've had a problem with my wife's Mini Cooper S. it was a dealer demonstrator and had covered about 2,000 miles when we bought it. The car is under warranty and has been maintained by the main dealer. It has covered 19,000 miles now and the clutch is totally burnt out taking the fly wheel with it leaving us with a bill for just under £2k to replace it.
My wife is not a fast driver, she's a good and competent driver, but never rags her car. She also doesn't ride the clutch and she's had many cars over years including another Mini which she had from new. We've never had a clutch worn on a car that is less than 3 years old before, so I can only conclude that the car must have been hammered during its first 2,000 miles working as a demonstrator.
So my advice (having learnt a very expensive lesson) is never to touch a dealer demonstrator. I certainly won't ever again.
My wife is not a fast driver, she's a good and competent driver, but never rags her car. She also doesn't ride the clutch and she's had many cars over years including another Mini which she had from new. We've never had a clutch worn on a car that is less than 3 years old before, so I can only conclude that the car must have been hammered during its first 2,000 miles working as a demonstrator.
So my advice (having learnt a very expensive lesson) is never to touch a dealer demonstrator. I certainly won't ever again.
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