Bilstein PSS10
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KeithRobinson

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100 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Hi Folks,

Just bought some Bilstein PSS10 coilovers for my 2002 C2.

Once I fit them, is there anything else to consider? Will the car wear tyres any differently/need any camber/caster adjustment etc?

Cheers

Keith

996ttalot

1,931 posts

205 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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KeithRobinson said:
Hi Folks,

Just bought some Bilstein PSS10 coilovers for my 2002 C2.

Once I fit them, is there anything else to consider? Will the car wear tyres any differently/need any camber/caster adjustment etc?

Cheers

Keith
Keith, you will need a full geo done to set these up. Tyre wear is going to be dependent on what camber etc you want to run. We run these on 996s a lot and it is really customer dependent on what settings you want. Great choice btw.

Ken

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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KeithRobinson said:
Hi Folks,

Just bought some Bilstein PSS10 coilovers for my 2002 C2.

Once I fit them, is there anything else to consider? Will the car wear tyres any differently/need any camber/caster adjustment etc?

Cheers

Keith
It isn't possible to properly fit them yourself unless you have access to toe/camber/ride height aligners and cornerweighting equipment. The car will be a death trap unless all these are properly sorted as part of the installation. You will also need to decide on the ride heights you are going to use (and why) and the geo/setup you want/need to provide the handling you require.

I can't urge you strongly enough to go to a proper suspension specialist (Center Gravity would be my first recommendation) who will go through all of the options with you and set up the car so it does what you want and performs in a way that compliments your abilities as a driver.

In addition to 'fitting' the coilovers, you will need to have the rest of the suspension on the car properly overhauled. There will doubtless be bushes and mounts (and likely steering arms) on a 10-year-old car that are in sh*t state. As the loads on the suspension will be a lot higher with the coilovers installed, the PSS-10s will ruthlessly expose the slightest wear and prevent the suspension specialist from doing a proper geo. In addition, any play will have serious adverse effects on the car's handling.

So much for the downsides - the upside is that the car, once fettled and properly set-up with the Bilsteins, will be a total revelation. I put Bilstein coilovers on my last Porsche (997S.1) and the difference was beyond unbelievable - very taut body control, super-sharp turn-in, less body roll, great adjustability through a corner, almost no understeer, vastly improved overall grip, no bobbing up and down at the front - you get the picture. However, you will get NONE of these benefits without the overhaul and setup referred to above.

Hope this helps.

KeithRobinson

Original Poster:

100 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Thanks for all your advice and help.

Would the same detailed setup be required when fitting bilstein shocks along with the eibach -30mm springs?

Cheers

Keith

Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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KeithRobinson said:
Thanks for all your advice and help.

Would the same detailed setup be required when fitting bilstein shocks along with the eibach -30mm springs?

Cheers

Keith
Yes, definitely. Anything that alters any suspension setting will have a knock-on effect on all the other suspension settings. A full geo is a fundamental, integral and essential part of any suspension upgrade. The same goes for a proper suspension/steering overhaul. Mixing expensive new suspension components (irrespective of what they are) with worn, existing parts makes no sense whatsoever and negates many of the advantages you are looking for.

Edit: Also bear in mind that the standard suspension settings will no longer be optimal in a lowered, stiffened setup. You will need a properly-knowledgeable suspension specialist to recommend a setup that works with the new components.

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Thursday 17th May 13:04

SEE YA

3,522 posts

275 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I have just done my shocks, all around and new bushes Powerflex drop links etc.

As I think in most cases, these things are often overlooked by people.

Masher964

183 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Centre gravity fitted bilstein pss10 suspension to my 964 and completely transformed the handling. Took it to Bedford for my first track day and the instructor, who presumably sits in lots of cars, kept quizzing me about how the car maintained so much grip. Pleased or what! Pss10 and set up by centre gravity is the way to go in my opinion.

ThirstyMoose

86 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Ditto.

Centre Gravity fitted PSS10s, top mounts, bushes, arms etc on my 16yr old 993 Turbo, and set it up to my taste.
It's a totally different car, better handling performance in every respect.


KeithRobinson

Original Poster:

100 posts

176 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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I'm in Northern Ireland so using them may not be possible.

I'm going to fit them myself then take the car to a suspension expert to corner weight and setup the geo.