Barn Find 1974 Porsche 911
Barn Find 1974 Porsche 911
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Podro

Original Poster:

172 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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So imagine my surprise when a friend let me know that his late Father's 1974 911 S was pushed into his Mum's garage 13 years ago and has never had the cover lifted off it since. All I know at the minute is that the car is a red 911 S, with a "fin on the back" and that his Father used to show the car. So when it was pushed in there it was allegedly immaculate.

No idea on the mileage, whether it's pre-impact bumper, or even what model it is... but I'll hopefully be having a look at the weekend biggrin

Any tips on what to look for to ID the car... these early 911's are not my specialist subject I'm afraid so any help appreciated. Where to locate the VIN I guess would be a good start...?

marky911

4,434 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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1974 is when they went to impact bumper.
Very much doubt it's pre impact.

Sounds interesting though. Engines are like chocolate though, especially headstuds.

POORCARDEALER

8,668 posts

271 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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The 74 impact bumper cars used to be a poor relation, but a nice one is worth good money

squirdan

1,159 posts

177 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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have a look at the impact bumpers forum

the vin is on an aluminium plate under the front bonnet

also worth looking under the ashtray...chassis number or build number

start hoping its a 74 Carrera! worth £70k restored

rubystone

11,254 posts

289 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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squirdan said:
have a look at the impact bumpers forum

the vin is on an aluminium plate under the front bonnet

also worth looking under the ashtray...chassis number or build number

start hoping its a 74 Carrera! worth £70k restored
Be careful! A 1974 Carrera 2.7 might be worth a bit more than a standard 1974 911 but £70k....hmmm....and it is very very difficult to tell a 7R crankcase from a standard one....and very easy to dress up a car....and in the US they didn't even get the old engine....

The 2.7 motor in the impact cars (aside from the Carrera) is not the best engine they ever produced and even in "S" guise has a paltry 175bhp. The engine isn't as robust as the later units in the SC either.

Having said all of that, for a bit of period charm, with black vinyl/ red tartan seats and trim...and if you are lucky, the retention of the chrome trim around lights, door tops etc makes for a nice retro car....and if it isn't full of filler and you can buy it for a chunk less than £10k, take a punt....

ASM993

113 posts

251 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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If you look here, the carrera is c.70k and upwards!
http://blog.eurocarrera.com/search/label/Forsale

keep your fingers crossed!

ASM993

113 posts

251 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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p.s. if the serial no(ali plateside on inner wing left side of front compartment) reads 91146xxxx you've hit pay day!

let us know!

ASM993

113 posts

251 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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[quote=rubystone]

Be careful! A 1974 Carrera 2.7 might be worth a bit more than a standard 1974 911 but £70k....hmmm....and it is very very difficult to tell a 7R crankcase from a standard one....

Am I missing something? dont you just look at teh last two digits of the part number stamped on the case (dont confuse it with the heads)if it says 7r then its 7r.
You also need to look at the engine type code next to the fan shroud. If it says 911/83 then its a genuine 2.7mfi.

Gulf911

91 posts

216 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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The narrow body 2.7S with 175 bhp is now collectable and the value of a really good one is around £25k.

ASM993

113 posts

251 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Gulf911 said:
The narrow body 2.7S with 175 bhp is now collectable and the value of a really good one is around £25k.
whilst i've got my anorak on and to help the OP, the vin for the S in 74 is 911430xxxx
good luck!

Podro

Original Poster:

172 posts

183 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Thanks for all the pointers guys, I feel like I actually know what I'm looking for now!

If I get chance I'll go and see the car tomorrow, latest will be Sunday so will try and post some details and a couple of pics. Got my hands full tomorrow picking up the my new Pork so it's going to be a good weekend biggrin

Wish

1,948 posts

279 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Good luck and look forward to the photos .... Just need to find the barn then ;-)

MrCooke

796 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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rubystone said:
Be careful! A 1974 Carrera 2.7 might be worth a bit more than a standard 1974 911 but £70k....hmmm....and it is very very difficult to tell a 7R crankcase from a standard one....and very easy to dress up a car....and in the US they didn't even get the old engine....

The 2.7 motor in the impact cars (aside from the Carrera) is not the best engine they ever produced and even in "S" guise has a paltry 175bhp. The engine isn't as robust as the later units in the SC either.

Having said all of that, for a bit of period charm, with black vinyl/ red tartan seats and trim...and if you are lucky, the retention of the chrome trim around lights, door tops etc makes for a nice retro car....and if it isn't full of filler and you can buy it for a chunk less than £10k, take a punt....
Eh?

To make an S look like a Carrera you'll need at least : flared rear arches, a mechanical fuel injection set up, different clocks. Not impossible but hardly the work of a few hours and 5k!

The important number in a Carrera VIN is actually the next 6, like the 73 cars, but as above look for 911/83 stamped on the horizontal surface to the righ of the fan and .7R on the bottom of the cases.

The last good RHD coupe made 80k, LHD ones make more.

It'll be an S, so as above c. 25k for a lully one.

Podro

Original Poster:

172 posts

183 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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Here you go:









Car is a 2.7 Carrera 1974, first reg'd Feb '74, chassis number beginning 911410XXXX. Lots of history, appears to be original 57k miles, clearly with non-original wheels and rear spoiler. From what I could tell in the somewhat restricted garage (!) the bodywork appeared rust free and the interior very tidy.

So... thoughts on value? confused

POORCARDEALER

8,668 posts

271 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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I dont recall seeing cloth like that before in a Porsche???

doneitnow

663 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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POORCARDEALER said:
I dont recall seeing cloth like that before in a Porsche???
It looks like it is out of a train lol still a nice find thoughsmile

T_Pot

2,542 posts

227 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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Lot of things about that car don't look right......fairly modern mats for a car that last opened 13 years ago...tyre shine still on the inflated tyres... Something doesn't add up for me

Podro

Original Poster:

172 posts

183 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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doneitnow said:
It looks like it is out of a train lol still a nice find thoughsmile
Funny enough it feels exactly like that on the east coast main line biggrin

Podro

Original Poster:

172 posts

183 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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T_Pot said:
Lot of things about that car don't look right......fairly modern mats for a car that last opened 13 years ago...tyre shine still on the inflated tyres... Something doesn't add up for me
The mats were around in the late 90's and tyre shine is mostly silicon so won't dry out when covered over so those things don't bother me. I agree the car has had, how can I say it, one or two choice accesories such as the speakers, wheels and spoiler, but is there a good car underneath as those things are easy to fix?

Gulf911

91 posts

216 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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Unfortunately not a Carrera as the VIN number would be 91146xxxxx.
It's a narrow body 2.7S with non original wheels, tail and upholstery.
Rust is the big issue on these cars so it will require a detailed inspection on a ramp.


Edited by Gulf911 on Sunday 26th February 15:51