Anyone shipped a Porsche?
Anyone shipped a Porsche?
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Harris_I

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290 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Am intending to emigrate back to the UK later this year and will be bringing two cars back with me.

Just had a quote from a local freight company: they're quoting an additional 3% on the value of vehicles for marine insurance. TBH, I'm gobsmacked. That's pretty much the cost of the shipping itself. And also the same as the cost of insuring them on the road for a year.

Anyone done this before and can tell me if this is normal?

PTCSRS

17 posts

259 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I recently shipped to US west coast with this company very reasonable and good service www.carshipuk.co.uk

Harris_I

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Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Thanks Peter! Just dropped them a line.

fioran0

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203 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I've shipped cars back and forth plenty but always in containers.
Insurance was always expensive, I'll look up old paperwork to see the exact percentage, but the only other option is to do without and I was never happy with this alternative.
I've no idea how things work on a roro as I've never used this method.

Harris_I

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Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I'm also nervous of doing roro as both cars have enormous sentimental value to me.

I'm being a bit thick here, but why on earth should I pay additional for marine insurance? Should it not be part of the freight co's contractual remit to ship the goods in one piece, and if they fail, then to reimburse the customer for the cost of those goods? What am I missing here?

melv

4,708 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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In ten years of collecting cars ro-ro I can remember only one with significant damage, that actually occured dockside on arrival and not on the boat....

thegoose

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241 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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melv said:
In ten years of collecting cars ro-ro I can remember only one with significant damage, that actually occured dockside on arrival and not on the boat....
But if a tyre goes flat during the voyage will they change it and put the spare on before off-loading? Or just drive on the flat (risking wheel damage, as well as tyre)?

Harris_I

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Tuesday 7th February 2012
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For me it's a case of worrying what some numbskull will be thinking as he eyes up a pristine integrale and a Cup-lookalike Porsche with the keys in his hand, gleaming like the Ring of Sauron.

Sourcing panels for the 'grale can take months and it only takes a wet surface and a twitchy right foot to have the GT3 swapping ends in first gear.


fioran0

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203 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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You might want to read the insurance terms and conditions.
Each time I've shipped, my insurance has covered total loss ie container falling off or never turning up and nothing more. It certainly didn't cover damage to anything.

If its your gt3 you should remove rear spoiler and front lip as a minimum and ship these separately if you roro. Normally cups are transported with the wings and lips placed inside the car but you can't have anything inside the vehicle this way.

Damage will likely need to be covered by the cars own insurance.

Welcome to the world of shipping lines. They just move cargo and that's all your car is. No liability coverage or acceptance. You get this yourself if it matters.

Harris_I

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Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Ah ok, thanks fioran0, this is all new to me. How odd that someone can take responsibility to transport your car for a consideration, and if it gets damaged or lost on the way, they shrug their shoulders.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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You have to see the shipping company as merely people going your way, someone puts the cargo on, someone takes it off. The handlers at each end handle tens of thousands of items in a given period. If you are worried about damage then wrap the car up in it's own metal box - a container.

As for loss in transit the shipping company could cover all that for you but their price would increase. To make it simple they just quote you for the haulage element and let you decide how much or how little risk aversion you want to pass on.

Of more concern should be the price paid at each end to get it on and off the ship and sit on a bit of concrete dock until the lorry comes to pick it up. The extras soon mount up. Ultimately the actual ship owner / haulier probably isn't that unreasonable in their charges.

You could always have it flown back. We are paying around £3/kg from Asia door to door smile

Henry

edited to add I wouldn't be overly precious about the cup cars. They generally aren't unfamiliar with the inside of a paint booth. They aren't particularly suited to being driven on or off a ferry though. I would hate to see your P&J sitting on a super hot Middle East quayside with the engine running whilst they decide where to put it. Most cars don't have to be doing 60mph to stop them overheating.

Henry smile

Edited by Henry-F on Tuesday 7th February 15:50

fioran0

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203 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Absolutely ref the cups and paint booths. You do need to take the wing off though for shipping. Its easily caught on stuff and too tempting to be used as a handle for pushing. 8k worth of carbon fibre parts gets tiresome when 5 minutes with an Allen key and spanner would have prevented all.
Porsche ships them this way and everyone I've moved or seen moved has copied.

OPs car is a regular GT3 but is running a cup rear wing I think. Thought I'd mention it incase he's not used to moving them and unbolting and hadn't thought.

If you have personal possessions then maybe think about a 40ft. Both cars will go inside along with a bunch of stuff. Get a quote door to door and then you've no nasty surprises ref local costs.

melv

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Tuesday 7th February 2012
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thegoose said:
But if a tyre goes flat during the voyage will they change it and put the spare on before off-loading?
In my experience, yes.....

But if u r concerned, container the only way......

Harris_I

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Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Thanks chaps - all very helpful comments. Henry, as fioran0 says, it's not a Cup but has a lot of Cup parts and I certainly won't risk a carbon wing.

40ft container sounds the way to go and full insurance sounds sensible.