TPMS - Sensor Replacement

TPMS - Sensor Replacement

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bimjim

Original Poster:

260 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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The batteries in my TPMS sensors are dead so I've ordered some replacements.

Does anyone know what the procedure is to get these talking to the car? Will I need to go to dealer or will it just 'learn' nearby sensors?

I suspect the former but hope for the latter.


craigjm

18,479 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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What Porsche is it? on the gen 2 997 and gen2 Cayman/Boxster then you change the batteries and then go into the TPMS setting and set it to re-learn

Lordglenmorangie

3,057 posts

212 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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There is a setting up procedure, I found mine in the hand book . The car learns from the travelling of the wheel can take a few miles before it calibrates itself. No need for a trip to dealers wink

bimjim

Original Poster:

260 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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craigjm said:
What Porsche is it? on the gen 2 997 and gen2 Cayman/Boxster then you change the batteries and then go into the TPMS setting and set it to re-learn
It's an old Cayenne, I'm told the sensor batteries can't be changed.

Lordglenmorangie said:
There is a setting up procedure, I found mine in the hand book . The car learns from the travelling of the wheel can take a few miles before it calibrates itself. No need for a trip to dealers wink
Sounds straightforward to re-learn then, I'll give that it go.

Cheers.

anonymous-user

61 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Thought I might revive this thread as my first sensor has just failed at 6.5 years.

Any recommendations for where to buy the sensors complete with new valves?

2007 997.1 S

blueSL

633 posts

233 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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The dealer, of course, but I expect the parts specialists do them as well. The real issue is the wheels have to come off the car and the tyres off the wheels with re-balancing which is a nightmare if you have centre locks. if your tyres are close to being changed, do them both at the same time. Other side of the coin: if you need new tyres and the sensors are more than 6 years old, swap the sensors at the same time.

anonymous-user

61 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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blueSL said:
The dealer, of course, but I expect the parts specialists do them as well. The real issue is the wheels have to come off the car and the tyres off the wheels with re-balancing which is a nightmare if you have centre locks. if your tyres are close to being changed, do them both at the same time. Other side of the coin: if you need new tyres and the sensors are more than 6 years old, swap the sensors at the same time.
Fitting isn't a problem. I have my own tyre changer and balancer and haven't needed anyone to fit my tyres for many years, though not centre locks which I am fortunate not to have!

I have found 1 aftermarket supplier but wonder if anyone has any other ideas or experience of the supposed OE equivalents at a fraction of the OPC price.


RAWENG

123 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Just replaced mine on my 997.1 turbo. Seached the net Uk, Europe&USA and ended up replacing with a generic clones of the original Beru sensors called I-sensor which were £55 each fitted at my local Protyre this included the rebalancing and vat. OPC wanted £670 +vat. I have the old sensors on my desk I have tried to dig out the battery and given up its not just a case of digging out the encapsulating sealant as once you remove all that the printed circuit board is blocking access to the battery and that is also sealed in place.

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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RAWENG said:
Just replaced mine on my 997.1 turbo. Seached the net Uk, Europe&USA and ended up replacing with a generic clones of the original Beru sensors called I-sensor which were £55 each fitted at my local Protyre this included the rebalancing and vat. OPC wanted £670 +vat. I have the old sensors on my desk I have tried to dig out the battery and given up its not just a case of digging out the encapsulating sealant as once you remove all that the printed circuit board is blocking access to the battery and that is also sealed in place.
Thanks a lot. Can you recall the supplier details and did they come with new valves? The Beru ones seem to be sensor only and i have not been able to find the valve as yet.


bimjim

Original Poster:

260 posts

170 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I got my replacements from here - http://www.rlauto.com/TPMS/. They have the valves available too and everything was delivered the following day.

Alternatively, you can get the official Beru ones direct from the US via TireRack, which is cheaper... See here Pistonheads

New sensors should just be picked up by the car, but mine needed to be reset by OPC.

RAWENG

123 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I-SENSORS are distributed by www.autogem.co.uk . They are OE equivalent , have the same battery life and same warranty

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Thanks again guys. I think I will try the I-sensors.

Did you get them directly from Autogem, RAWENG or via Protyre?

RAWENG

123 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Yes the I-SENSORS came complete with valves. Be sure to fit the 43mm length valves

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Just had this message from Autogem, so looks like I need to get their agent to clone the sensors before I fit them.


Thank you for your enquiry. 2007 Porsche 911 S is using very early Beru RDE001 sensors and our i-sensor programmable sensors are compatible only in ID clone option. If you are still in possession of original sensors we can transfer ID’s from original sensors to our programmable sensors. Also if you are looking for fitting i-sensors in your car we can look for authorised garage in your area. If you have more questions regarding i-sensors please call me on 0208 838 0910 option 4 for TPMS support.



Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th April 11:13

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Now this.

I’m assuming the reason you want to replace your original sensors is that they are dead (not transmitting any information any more). If yes we can’t use any scan tool to retrieve sensors ID’s so I’m afraid you will need to take them out and send ID’s to us before we start cloning procedure. ID’s are written on each sensor body. The most important thing is to remember wheel position for each unique ID. For example if you have taken out sensor from FL wheel and it’s got ID. XXXXXXXX when we copy this ID to new sensor, this sensor needs to be fitted back in FL wheel. Also some of the elements of the sensor need to be tighten up with correct torque so you will need special tools to fit them. 11 mm Hex nut needs to be tighten up to 4Nm. and T20 TORX screw needs to be tighten up to 2.2Nm. We got set of this tools in our offer as well.



Looks like a set of originals will be the easiest way, if this is all correct.

How the heck did you get yours done RAWENG?!

RAWENG

123 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I took my car into Protyre a nationwide franchise and they cloned the sensors. I was also advised by my local Porsche centre not to buy even the OE Beru sensors on line as they would also need to be cloned to the originals or the car would not recognise them. If you have tyre removal facilities pull the bead of each tyre back and retrieve the numbers the supplier can then clone the sensors manually using the numbers that you have supplied. My sensors needed manual cloning as the batteries were dead thus the units were not transmitting their individual codes. Later Porsche models 2009 onwards use a different sensor that does not need to be cloned to the original, they are also cheaper.

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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RAWENG said:
I took my car into Protyre a nationwide franchise and they cloned the sensors. I was also advised by my local Porsche centre not to buy even the OE Beru sensors on line as they would also need to be cloned to the originals or the car would not recognise them. If you have tyre removal facilities pull the bead of each tyre back and retrieve the numbers the supplier can then clone the sensors manually using the numbers that you have supplied. My sensors needed manual cloning as the batteries were dead thus the units were not transmitting their individual codes. Later Porsche models 2009 onwards use a different sensor that does not need to be cloned to the original, they are also cheaper.
Once more, thank you!

I have asked for autogem's nearest agent so will try to go that way. If not it looks like I might need to have a look at each sensor and get the ids, then see how I progress.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th April 12:32


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th April 13:37

m33ufo

4,959 posts

238 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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RAWENG said:
Later Porsche models 2009 onwards use a different sensor that does not need to be cloned to the original, they are also cheaper.
My original sensors are just fine but I have now fitted new wheels and was considering adding TPM sensors to them. The car is a 2009 997 Gen1 Turbo, do you think this would have the later (2009 onward) sensors?

RAWENG

123 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Only sure way to tell is to ask your OPC or contact www.autogem.co.uk with your vehicles vin number, let the experts advise you.

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Right. After a number of e mails backwards and forwards with a very helpful Autogem, I have arranged to go to their local approved dealer. I have removed the failed sensor, which was quite easy to do, and he will clone it and scan and clone the other three, sending me home with 4 new sensors to fit.

Autogem will supply the special torque tool for the sensor screw and valve collar at a reasonable price (looks quite a handy little tool).

I will report back if anyone's interested.

Thanks for everyone's help.