RE: GT5S_1985's De Tomaso Pantera GT5-S
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There's a lovely one for sale here! Bloody expensive though
www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm
www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm
cammers said:
There's a lovely one for sale here! Bloody expensive though
www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm
That is stunning
and yes it seems a little high I do hope you are a member of the De Tomaso drivers club.
We do their site (www.detomasodc.co.uk/) and are often at the meets. In fact there was one on Sat down at Goodwood. Some of the owners have some other fantastic cars, F40, Koenigsegg, EB110.
Go on, you know it makes sense.
We do their site (www.detomasodc.co.uk/) and are often at the meets. In fact there was one on Sat down at Goodwood. Some of the owners have some other fantastic cars, F40, Koenigsegg, EB110.
Go on, you know it makes sense.
Sorry, I just found this thread sort of by accident...
Thanks! I wasn't sure about the "Miami Vice" white when I bought it and was actually planning on repainting it. For me the most important part was finding one in good shape - color can always be "fixed". Now that I have it the white/black scheme was really grown on me. I tend to DRIVE it a lot, so it is probably due for a respray next year to return it to "as-new" condition.
I probably know the Burgandy GT5-S as I attended Le Mans with him 3 years ago... Real real nice guy. As far as the DTUK goes, since I don't live in the UK I'm not a member but I do know a fair number of them. We hold an International Meeting every 2 years and there aren't ALL that many of those cars out there.
Would this be the car you are thinking of?
Thanks! I wasn't sure about the "Miami Vice" white when I bought it and was actually planning on repainting it. For me the most important part was finding one in good shape - color can always be "fixed". Now that I have it the white/black scheme was really grown on me. I tend to DRIVE it a lot, so it is probably due for a respray next year to return it to "as-new" condition.
I probably know the Burgandy GT5-S as I attended Le Mans with him 3 years ago... Real real nice guy. As far as the DTUK goes, since I don't live in the UK I'm not a member but I do know a fair number of them. We hold an International Meeting every 2 years and there aren't ALL that many of those cars out there.
Would this be the car you are thinking of?
I don't know, but for my insurance I have to have my car appraised every 2 years. It is true that I did a certain amount of work to the engine since the previous appraisal, but it had appreciated nearly 15,000 euros in 2 years according to the appraisal company!
There also may be a difference between the earlier Panteras, of which they produced 4000-6000, depending on who you believe, and the late model ones like the GT5-S quoted at 50,000 pounds... They only made 89 of these things world-wide, so they tend to be worth a little more anyway and are more subject to market demands than a car with higher quantities.
There also may be a difference between the earlier Panteras, of which they produced 4000-6000, depending on who you believe, and the late model ones like the GT5-S quoted at 50,000 pounds... They only made 89 of these things world-wide, so they tend to be worth a little more anyway and are more subject to market demands than a car with higher quantities.
I remember reading a review back in the late 70's about a Pantera, the write up was not too complimentary with regard to the reliabilty of the car and the problem with heat build up, however that aside it was a good review.
I have only ever seen a couple on the roads, until a few weeks back, took a trip to donnington park, saw two in the car park and two racing....
The two racing examples, looked lovely, sounded better, unfortunately dropped oil all over the circuit and werent as competitive as I would expected..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143844422/144149127rWHoXk
I have only ever seen a couple on the roads, until a few weeks back, took a trip to donnington park, saw two in the car park and two racing....
The two racing examples, looked lovely, sounded better, unfortunately dropped oil all over the circuit and werent as competitive as I would expected..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/143844422/144149127rWHoXk
They had some problems in the beginning. Alejandro DeTomaso was great at ideas, but pretty poor at carrying them through completely. A lot of development was left up to the owners instead of being properly sorted out by the factory.
Early Panteras overheated badly and had a few minor niggles. The frustrating thing is that these problems were easily fixed and didn't need to be.
As far as reliability goes, perhaps I am not the best person to ask as my car broke down on me driving home from purchasing it
I struggled with the engine for a little while but believe that I have now solved the problems. A stock Pantera ought to be dead-reliable. It uses a Ford 351C that has powered other cars for hundreds of thousands of miles. Of course, what happens is that the roughly 310-350hp soon seems insufficient and people begin the search for additional ponies. Once you begin modifying the basic recipe you are into uncharted territories and your success depends on the skill of the particular mechanic.
There are numerous examples of Panteras with more than 100,000 miles on the original motor, and the president of the Swedish DeTomaso club has over 200,000 miles on his, including track days each year. His doesn't even burn oil!
Early Panteras overheated badly and had a few minor niggles. The frustrating thing is that these problems were easily fixed and didn't need to be.
As far as reliability goes, perhaps I am not the best person to ask as my car broke down on me driving home from purchasing it
I struggled with the engine for a little while but believe that I have now solved the problems. A stock Pantera ought to be dead-reliable. It uses a Ford 351C that has powered other cars for hundreds of thousands of miles. Of course, what happens is that the roughly 310-350hp soon seems insufficient and people begin the search for additional ponies. Once you begin modifying the basic recipe you are into uncharted territories and your success depends on the skill of the particular mechanic. There are numerous examples of Panteras with more than 100,000 miles on the original motor, and the president of the Swedish DeTomaso club has over 200,000 miles on his, including track days each year. His doesn't even burn oil!
Marki said:Have a look again!!! It's gone up by another £25000 now!
There's a lovely one for sale here! Bloody expensive though
<a href="http://www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm">www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm</a>
That is stunning
cammers said:
cammers said:
There's a lovely one for sale here! Bloody expensive though
<a href="http://www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm"><a href="http://www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm">www.manorgarage.co.uk/266deto.htm</a></a>
That is stunning
Have a look again!!! It's gone up by another £25000 now!
Hmm, let's see... I haven't been able to sell it at 50,000, let me up the price by 50% and see if it sells now??
Methinks someone is a little optimistic...
AJB said:
Very nice cars, if only i had the money.
As for the reliability, didn't Elvis have one ?
And one morning when it didnt start he got his shotgun and made some "modifications"to the body work.
Elvis did in fact have one. One morning it did in fact elect to not start. However he didn't shoot the bodywork with a shotgun, he put a couple of bullets into the dash. I've seen photos of the Elvis car and there is still a bullet hole in the steering wheel. Sounds like he may have been slightly hormonal at the moment...
Edited to add a link to photos of the Elvis Pantera and a little about the history of it:
www.panteracars.com/elvis1001.htm
Edited again to paste in a photo of Elvis' steering wheel
>> Edited by gt5s_1985 on Wednesday 23 June 09:10
>> Edited by gt5s_1985 on Wednesday 23 June 09:13
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