New Car - FD2 Import Type R

[smithmi81]

Just a few pictures to share with you all of my new car, I did have recently sold my Megane R26.R with the intention to get something a little more sensible. Have always previously owned a few Hondas (some to list are a DC2 and DC5 Integra, also owned a EK9 civic type R)

The car is an absolute mint FD2 import civic type r purchased from someone from the FD2 owners club. The car was imported as a new car in 2008. And am enjoying every minute of every drive at the moment, really enjoy the engine sound and the driver involvement.....

Apologies for the poor picture quality as the weather was very dull and overcast and haven’t had anytime to edit the pictures yet.

[007 VXR]

hondas never been my cup of tea .. but i like that
any plans for mods ??

[Mark-t]

Awesome, from a fellow DC5 owner
Any plans for it? The toda system looks sweet..

[smithmi81]

At the moment and until funds can pay for them and when the yen becomes more favorable against the pound it's going to stay standard but planned mods so far will be

gruppem induction kit
toda manifold
toda exhaust (straight tip)
hondata flash pro

but will have to wait a few months.

[KennyGT]

That's awesome! And different, which is great! It's like the DC5, dont see many knocking about. Nice motor fella!

[Mark-t]

smithmi81 said:

At the moment and until funds can pay for them and when the yen becomes more favorable against the pound it's going to stay standard but planned mods so far will be

gruppem induction kit
toda manifold
toda exhaust (straight tip)
hondata flash pro

but will have to wait a few months.

A faultless shopping list that, should see 250bhp plus, make sure to update the thread.
How do you find the standard suspension? I hear many change to AST coilovers (etc) for a more forgiving ride.

[smithmi81]

I have considered the ast suspension but at the moment I'm not finding the ride that much of a problem. I don't generally
do that many miles in it.

Will post more pictures as and when parts go on the car. Fingers crossed they will improve power delivery and response

[soad]

Photos look great, what's the interior like?

[stew-S160]

Really do like them. But can't afford one
For the money, I could get a TVR T350 instead though.

[juddy]

Hi There

Great car will keep an eye out for you as Im in Yeovil.I test drove one of these when EVO had one for test at bedford I was very pleased with the handling at the time I had a EP3 Type R Anniversary.Got a Red R26 F1 but I do miss the sound of the V-tec it feels like your in a racing car.I know the guys at Honda in Yeovil they have a chap with the same car all carboned up sounds mental when he is driving it,just like a touring car.

Justin

[Ved]

How is the rock hard suspension treating you? Very nice looking car btw

[smithmi81]

The suspension isnt that different to the megane, A bit harder for sure but not so much so its annoying me at the moment. Although the EK9 was pretty harsh with Cusco Zero 1 coilovers. When I picked it up I had a 280mile trip home which was about the limit I would want to do without stopping.

Ill keep an eye out for the red megane, I know know a few of the guys at honda as well do you know any of the guys at renault as I know one of the sales man very well he sold me my R26.R

[minimatt1967]

Nice, I was watching the FN2 vs the FD2, all I could think was Honda why why why? Lovely car, some interior shots would be great.

[juddy]

Yes you must be talking about Steve I think he loves the Renault Sport cars.He took me out in one and that promted the change.My Type R was great and I had it around 4 years with not one problem but 100k was just around the corner and as it looked so good thought I would sell it and upgrade.

If you fancy a meet up sometime that would be good,we could take the cars for a run and if you need any anvice on detailing I made on that too !

J

[JayK12]

From another Honda fan.........that is lovely! I always considered on, but had X2 UK DC2's, X1 JDM DC2, and X3 DC5'S before converting to my first Honda Turbo 500+whp build 4 door Honda Accord Type R.

I really like that, bet it drives really well to.

I would say give coilovers a miss if your not tracking it often, on my DC5's i tried a few different setups and Eibach Progressive Springs on the Standard Dampers with a Geo Setup suited the A/B Roads best, the Tein MonoFlex £2000 Worth of Coilovers just wanted to chuck you into a hedge over any B road bump. Eibachs are still tight on the track but coilovers are much better.

Also i wouldnt bother with the Hondata Flash, go for the full KPRO ECU. With the above mods you will get around 245 - 250 realistically. Thats enough to make this car great, along with suspension upgrade and brake pad upgrade, maybe Energy Engine Mount Interts to stop the unwanted engine movement, you will need these if you have a Toda Manifold (or a torque damper) other wise you will Damage the manifold.

Gruppe-M is expensive and will always remain expensive, get over on www.civictype-r.co.uk you see some going on there. Or just import an AEM Long Reach intake which will give the same if not slightly more power and save £350+, i tested all these combo's on my DC5s.

Also if you want 260hp the RBC Intake Manifold from the EURO R has a better design and a kit can be bought from the states for around £260 IIRC. Easy fit and an extra 10hp

Jay

[JayK12]

stew-S160 said:

Really do like them. But can't afford one
For the money, I could get a TVR T350 instead though.

Save yourself a chunk and get a DC5 gayboy :P - Then spend the cash you save on MODS and make it a hardcore track car...........you know you want to!

[RobCrezz]

JayK12 said:

From another Honda fan.........that is lovely! I always considered on, but had X2 UK DC2's, X1 JDM DC2, and X3 DC5'S before converting to my first Honda Turbo 500+whp build 4 door Honda Accord Type R.

I really like that, bet it drives really well to.

I would say give coilovers a miss if your not tracking it often, on my DC5's i tried a few different setups and Eibach Progressive Springs on the Standard Dampers with a Geo Setup suited the A/B Roads best, the Tein MonoFlex £2000 Worth of Coilovers just wanted to chuck you into a hedge over any B road bump. Eibachs are still tight on the track but coilovers are much better.

Also i wouldnt bother with the Hondata Flash, go for the full KPRO ECU. With the above mods you will get around 245 - 250 realistically. Thats enough to make this car great, along with suspension upgrade and brake pad upgrade, maybe Energy Engine Mount Interts to stop the unwanted engine movement, you will need these if you have a Toda Manifold (or a torque damper) other wise you will Damage the manifold.

Gruppe-M is expensive and will always remain expensive, get over on www.civictype-r.co.uk you see some going on there. Or just import an AEM Long Reach intake which will give the same if not slightly more power and save £350+, i tested all these combo's on my DC5s.

Also if you want 260hp the RBC Intake Manifold from the EURO R has a better design and a kit can be bought from the states for around £260 IIRC. Easy fit and an extra 10hp

Jay

What benefit would KPro give over Hondata Flash on this?

I didnt think the RBC was any better than the RRC which is on the FD2?

[JayK12]

RobCrezz said:

JayK12 said:

From another Honda fan.........that is lovely! I always considered on, but had X2 UK DC2's, X1 JDM DC2, and X3 DC5'S before converting to my first Honda Turbo 500+whp build 4 door Honda Accord Type R.

I really like that, bet it drives really well to.

I would say give coilovers a miss if your not tracking it often, on my DC5's i tried a few different setups and Eibach Progressive Springs on the Standard Dampers with a Geo Setup suited the A/B Roads best, the Tein MonoFlex £2000 Worth of Coilovers just wanted to chuck you into a hedge over any B road bump. Eibachs are still tight on the track but coilovers are much better.

Also i wouldnt bother with the Hondata Flash, go for the full KPRO ECU. With the above mods you will get around 245 - 250 realistically. Thats enough to make this car great, along with suspension upgrade and brake pad upgrade, maybe Energy Engine Mount Interts to stop the unwanted engine movement, you will need these if you have a Toda Manifold (or a torque damper) other wise you will Damage the manifold.

Gruppe-M is expensive and will always remain expensive, get over on www.civictype-r.co.uk you see some going on there. Or just import an AEM Long Reach intake which will give the same if not slightly more power and save £350+, i tested all these combo's on my DC5s.

Also if you want 260hp the RBC Intake Manifold from the EURO R has a better design and a kit can be bought from the states for around £260 IIRC. Easy fit and an extra 10hp

Jay

What benefit would KPro give over Hondata Flash on this?

I didnt think the RBC was any better than the RRC which is on the FD2?

You are correct Rob, my bad, the RRC abd RBC are pretty much the same. Im to stuck in DC5 world! Ooops. With Breathing and ECU this car should see 255-260hp and good torque to, and the gearing being soo good they are quick for an N/A 2ltr.

Hondata Reflash is just a base map pretty much flashed onto your ECU with what mods you have. IIRC it cant be adjusted on a dyno. KPRO is full re-mapable ECU, tuned on a dyno, parameters a/f/vtec/cam angle/etc can all be changed. KPRO also has datalogging, the user can plug into it with the free software download, check the map, any fault codes, set launch control, adjust VTEC Crossover etc if they know what there doing or just learn of www.hondata.com

My mapper was US based, so i would email him my MODS and he would send me a base map, i would upload that onto the car, then i would do a 2nd gear from 2000rpm full throttle pull to the limiter, i would datalog (record) that, email him, he would make the needed adjustments and email me back, did this a couple of times to get it right, and then i would datalog for 5 mins on just normal driving and he would sort out the part throttle map, all in for £75, would cost a bomb here, and better done on road than Dyno. He does loads of them in the US, i think he charges more now because he is doing so many.

Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 2nd June 10:06

[smithmi81]

Thanks for the comments jay,

The standard suspension on the fd2 is very harsh and the ast coliover setup is supposed to be more forgiving on the road hence why they upgrade. Reference the induction kit I've had the aem on my dc2 and yes it performed well but the gruppem is a ram effect induction kit and well maybe I'm being a snob and wanting one. Current prices are £1000+ but if the exchange rate changes in favor of the £ I'll get one if not I'll think again. They should be around £700-800

Standard pads are fine they are ferodo ds2500s factory fitted so quite an improvement from the dc5 brembo pads.

[JayK12]

smithmi81 said:

Thanks for the comments jay,

The standard suspension on the fd2 is very harsh and the ast coliover setup is supposed to be more forgiving on the road hence why they upgrade. Reference the induction kit I've had the aem on my dc2 and yes it performed well but the gruppem is a ram effect induction kit and well maybe I'm being a snob and wanting one. Current prices are £1000+ but if the exchange rate changes in favor of the £ I'll get one if not I'll think again. They should be around £700-800

Standard pads are fine they are ferodo ds2500s factory fitted so quite an improvement from the dc5 brembo pads.

Maybe try some Eibach's Mate, i found them more comfortable springs than the OE DC5 springs and less harsh, but when driving hard they were better, hence the word "progressive" springs. I think there around £160 - £180. They only lower around 30mm, so camber does not change much, you may see -1.3 on front and -1.75 on rear.

Lol, ive had a Gruppe-M on my DC5 mate, the days when we could get them new for £550. They do look neat and tidy under the engine bay, but i didnt like the noise intrusion into the cabin from the Gruppe-M. I tried the Fujita F5 Long Reach, for me that was the best intake, for cost vs performance vs cabin noise.

Unsure if Buddyclub do kit for the FD2, but theres has performed aswell as Toda (if not slightly better gains on the DC5) and the quality is far better.

But parts aint cheap for the FD2

Ah nice to hear the DS2500 as OE spec, deffo thumbs up for that!