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Congrats matey, looks the business. I've always admired these and have wanted one myself for a long time, but two cars is my limit at the moment so until one of them goes that particular dream is on hold.
Hope it serves you well, be sure to do the odd report on it. Eg. Well guys 3 months on with my 106gti..." I would be very interested to read it.
Hope it serves you well, be sure to do the odd report on it. Eg. Well guys 3 months on with my 106gti..." I would be very interested to read it.
Great choice! Mine is sat outside right now - because the wheel bearings are f*cked.
I'd lose the intrigingly placed GTI badges on the front and rear, and you can't go wrong with the Pugsport/Scorpion 'group N' exhaust. Pops and bangs like clockwork once you learn how - but you'll have to put the original back on for an MOT.
Edit: I know you know better, but please don't ever, ever, ever get tempted to lower it. Peugeot had their best people on this job - no amount of under-developed aftermarket parts or fiddling with the torsion bars is going to improve it. It's a dynamic gem.
I'd lose the intrigingly placed GTI badges on the front and rear, and you can't go wrong with the Pugsport/Scorpion 'group N' exhaust. Pops and bangs like clockwork once you learn how - but you'll have to put the original back on for an MOT.
Edit: I know you know better, but please don't ever, ever, ever get tempted to lower it. Peugeot had their best people on this job - no amount of under-developed aftermarket parts or fiddling with the torsion bars is going to improve it. It's a dynamic gem.
Edited by Hoofty on Tuesday 7th July 20:40
Hoofty said:
Edit: I know you know better, but please don't ever, ever, ever get tempted to lower it. Peugeot had their best people on this job - no amount of under-developed aftermarket parts or fiddling with the torsion bars is going to improve it. It's a dynamic gem.
He's not wrong. This really is one of the most infuriating sights - Whats makes the Peugeor 106 and 306 so good, the standout 'feature', the USP, is the incredibly compliant, plush, grippy, well damped ride and handling along a typical british B-road. It really doesnt get any better.Yet the amount you see smashed to the ground, bouncing around, bottoming out and sparking all over the road is ridiculous. Way to ruin a good (great!) car.
t on it. like Lexarse Lights etc etc. snotrag said:
Hoofty said:
Edit: I know you know better, but please don't ever, ever, ever get tempted to lower it. Peugeot had their best people on this job - no amount of under-developed aftermarket parts or fiddling with the torsion bars is going to improve it. It's a dynamic gem.
He's not wrong. This really is one of the most infuriating sights - Whats makes the Peugeor 106 and 306 so good, the standout 'feature', the USP, is the incredibly compliant, plush, grippy, well damped ride and handling along a typical british B-road. It really doesnt get any better.Yet the amount you see smashed to the ground, bouncing around, bottoming out and sparking all over the road is ridiculous. Way to ruin a good (great!) car.
MattyB_ said:
Looks like a "Barry" car to me 
Har har Glad you're enjoying it mate, its a good 'un that so look after it
We agree on the mod front too, which is why this one only has a couple of subtle mods, as recommended by Skip Brown, where its been lovingly serviced these past few years.
I have a few pics of the car if you want me to mail some over btw, email/pm me if so.
B.
I daresay that lowering of a significant amount (more than 10-15mm in my book) may be achieveable without too many noticeable drawbacks, but it's a poor direction on several fronts. Chances are there's only about 20mm clearance to the bumpstops at standard ride height, so even mild lowering would put you in a distinctly non-linear region of the front wheel rate. Add to this the likelihood that aftermarket lowering springs will be stiffer than the standard parts by some arbitrary amount, whilst lowering the torsion bars at the rear has no effect on wheel rate or roll stiffness (only serving to reduce clearance to the bump stop), and you can only head in the direction of a car with increased steady state understeer, snap oversteer when the rear bump stops hit, and a ride that's been shot to f*ck. Just as there really is no replacement for displacement, there is no known disadvantage to having a decent amount of wheel stroke.
Amusingly, I've found you can have the biggest effect on the handling (well, the yaw behaviour if I'm being specific) by changing the lower engine mount. Fitting a polyurethane bung in place of the massively voided stock bush has a significant effect on the throttle adjustability, making it more linear and more reactive whilst also improving the gearshift. It also makes the car vibrate like a 1970s bus however, so fit at your own risk. I'll be drilling holes in mine to soften it off a bit.
Amusingly, I've found you can have the biggest effect on the handling (well, the yaw behaviour if I'm being specific) by changing the lower engine mount. Fitting a polyurethane bung in place of the massively voided stock bush has a significant effect on the throttle adjustability, making it more linear and more reactive whilst also improving the gearshift. It also makes the car vibrate like a 1970s bus however, so fit at your own risk. I'll be drilling holes in mine to soften it off a bit.
Gwaredd said:
Ponk said:
Nothing wrong with subtle lowering to around -30-40mm.
Yes there is. Everything. Utter cack mod.But then again, it would cost more than £100 to do it properly
Burgmeister said:
Gwaredd said:
Ponk said:
Nothing wrong with subtle lowering to around -30-40mm.
Yes there is. Everything. Utter cack mod.Ponk - i reckon you're on the wrong site.
My 106 is lowered about 40mm with 160lb springs and uprated Bilstein(and shortened dampers) and it handles considerably better than the standard setup. I'll admit that potholes are a little less fun but the improvement when on track makes this more than bearable. I'm going to ditch this for Gaz coilovers with adjustable damping soon though as I think one of my fronts has sprung a leak.
I'll admit lowering it with aftermarket springs and standard dampers is a mistake. But sweeping statements like it will ruin the car are just stupid.
Edited by Ponk on Thursday 9th July 12:57
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