Hi! New on here - My MK2 Golf VR6..

[Ladvr6]

Hi new on here, i normally frequent the VR6 owners club, and practical but been spending more and more time on here recently. Heres my mk2 golf, just finished rebuilding it (it was a little smokey after 2 years of abuse and a trip to The Ring) including a full engine build, i will get it painted when i get time/cash, but as i want to use it on the track and I prefer spanners to sponges, not too fussed about shiny paint.

Its got:

280mm brakes, pagid fast road pads and goodridge hoses,
F Leder suspension,
Polybushed,
Fully rebuilt Vr6 top and bottom end:
bored out to just under 3ltrs with Wossner low compression pistons,
ARP studs and bolts,
Rebuilt head with matched ports and light polish,
Stainless full system without cats,
VR6 tank, pump and lines,
Very little interior bar 2 buckets, harnesses, strutbraces and a spider somewhere..
waiting in the wings for when its run-in is a garrett gt3071R, tial wastegate and a whole load of goodies...
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[Louisa911]

Awesome motor, next on my dream car list- insurance is currently holding me back

[Ladvr6]

thanks! £400 comp insurance. Can pick them up already converted for around 2K, cheap 150mph car..

[Waynester]

Love the VR6, Golf & Corrado.

That's pretty low though - i assume you don't have traffic calming measures on your door-step??

[Ladvr6]

Yes they are everywhere around me! Its just high enough to scrape over them, did have it lower until i read an article about suspension setup and what angles the wishbones should be. To be fair it does drive better now its a little higher. The main problem is the sump of the vr is quite deep. its probably only 2 1/2 inches off the ground. Cant raise the engine as you have to remove the sound deadening to shut the bonnet as it is! Sounds better for it though!!
Cut my teeth on minis (including a deseemed, metro turbo'd flip front thing) then moved into vw's. Had Corrados in the past but always end up with a mk2.

[RobCrezz]

Very nice. Good choice of turbo, getting on for 400bhp I should imagine?

[Ladvr6]

Yes it should be around that, its the limit of the standard gearbox (usually strip 3rd) really before altering the internals. Probably wont run much over 350 to be honest, its got an uprated clutch and i will put an lsd in it when i get some spare cash but i reckon it'll be a handful still!

[RobCrezz]

Ladvr6 said:

Yes it should be around that, its the limit of the standard gearbox (usually strip 3rd) really before altering the internals. Probably wont run much over 350 to be honest, its got an uprated clutch and i will put an lsd in it when i get some spare cash but i reckon it'll be a handful still!

If you are only going for around 350, why not go for a smaller GT28 series. Should still see you 350 but with less lag and better boost threshold.

[Lord Snot]

A real sleeper that!

[minimatt1967]

Very nice, proper sleeper.. just out of interest why have you decided to go down the turbo instead of the supercharger route? I had heard the the VR responded very well to Supercharging.

[Adz The Rat]

Very very nice car that indeed!!
Is your engine powder coated? Im going for a dark look with mine too

[Ladvr6]

RobCrezz said:

Ladvr6 said:

Yes it should be around that, its the limit of the standard gearbox (usually strip 3rd) really before altering the internals. Probably wont run much over 350 to be honest, its got an uprated clutch and i will put an lsd in it when i get some spare cash but i reckon it'll be a handful still!

If you are only going for around 350, why not go for a smaller GT28 series. Should still see you 350 but with less lag and better boost threshold.

It was a tough decision to choose the right turbo. Generally, people are running 28's to 35's. i agree what you are saying about the 28's quicker spooling but i have gone larger as i have got the capacity to spool the turbo, will probably want to increase the power after a while as well.. Most people i have spoken to are running GT35's at the moment, i have seen the dyno plots and they are starting to spool around 2800-3000 so i reckon the 30 will give me the best of both worlds.

[Ladvr6]

minimatt1967 said:

Very nice, proper sleeper.. just out of interest why have you decided to go down the turbo instead of the supercharger route? I had heard the the VR responded very well to Supercharging.

Mates have had vortechs and vf engineering etc, and to be honest, apart from the sound, i wasnt really that impressed with them. to get any decent power out of them there becomes a problem with shredded belts. I looked at Rotrex chargers but they are more expensive than a turbo setup.

[Ladvr6]

Adz The Rat said:

Very very nice car that indeed!!
Is your engine powder coated? Im going for a dark look with mine too

thanks mate,

Nope, just good old fashioned hammerite satin black smooth finish!

[Scho]

mk2 Vr6's are very fast indeed.

My mate had a semi stripped shell with a vr6 in and it had allmost identical pace to my 944T. bit quicker off the line too , partly due to his complete lack of mechanical smympathy

the engine looks great in back btw!

[Ladvr6]

Ha! Yes i have a few friends with no mechanical sympathy too!! They do go well, i was pulling 14.4 at pod when it was standard, running the 16v fuel system. not run it there since but i reckon it pulls better since putting the vr tank, lines and pump on. Oh, and its a complete myth that they dont handle with a vr in too!!

[aka_kerrly]

Yes im liking that! Looks like a well built project.

A VR6 conversion is almost certainly likely to be my next project, did you buy a entire mk3 VR and use everything off it or was it just the engine/gearbox/subframe to start with. I notice you are still running 4 stud, did you not consider doing a wide track conversion using the mk3 front wishbones an hubs with 288mm brakes an the mk3 rear beam?

Is it running on stand alone management at this stage or will you make the swap once you have fitted the turbo. Ive heard very good things about motronic management.


Dave

[Ladvr6]

aka_kerrly said:

Yes im liking that! Looks like a well built project.

A VR6 conversion is almost certainly likely to be my next project, did you buy a entire mk3 VR and use everything off it or was it just the engine/gearbox/subframe to start with. I notice you are still running 4 stud, did you not consider doing a wide track conversion using the mk3 front wishbones an hubs with 288mm brakes an the mk3 rear beam?

Is it running on stand alone management at this stage or will you make the swap once you have fitted the turbo. Ive heard very good things about motronic management.


Dave

If i were to do it again i would buy a whole car as a donor. You can pick up a complete non mot'd mk3 for 500 notes, would soon make the money back flogging the remaining parts off.

i bought basically the front end. I swapped the wishbones over and stayed with 4 stud as it had a new set of wheels which i wanted to keep at the time. it already had the larger than standard 280mm G60 brakes on it, didnt see much advantage putting 8mm bigger brakes on it for the work involved.

its on standard management at the moment, im looking at C2 software for it when i put the turbo on, not 100% sure at the moment, it'll be the very last thing i purchase. i think that they are all very similar, its just down to the guy mapping it on the day.

[Ladvr6]

aka_kerrly said:

Yes im liking that! Looks like a well built project.

A VR6 conversion is almost certainly likely to be my next project, did you buy a entire mk3 VR and use everything off it or was it just the engine/gearbox/subframe to start with. I notice you are still running 4 stud, did you not consider doing a wide track conversion using the mk3 front wishbones an hubs with 288mm brakes an the mk3 rear beam?

Is it running on stand alone management at this stage or will you make the swap once you have fitted the turbo. Ive heard very good things about motronic management.


Dave

If i were to do it again i would buy a whole car as a donor. You can pick up a complete non mot'd mk3 for 500 notes, would soon make the money back flogging the remaining parts off.

i bought basically the front end. I swapped the wishbones over and stayed with 4 stud as it had a new set of wheels which i wanted to keep at the time. it already had the larger than standard 280mm G60 brakes on it, didnt see much advantage putting 8mm bigger brakes on it for the work involved.

its on standard management at the moment, im looking at C2 software for it when i put the turbo on, not 100% sure at the moment, it'll be the very last thing i purchase. i think that they are all very similar, its just down to the guy mapping it on the day.

[aka_kerrly]

Buying a whole Mk3/passat/corrado or even sharan is the route im thinking of taking. Like you say you can sell a lot of the parts you dont need an recoup a few quid.

I am familier with the C2 motorsports software, there are a few guys on the mk2vr6 owners club running it on NA engines producing 215-220 from 2.8s which is dam good.

THe only thing im not sure about is the 3.0 an forced induction, i know you can go 3.2 or even 3.4 but at what point do the cylinder walls become too narrow to take the punishment of boast?

i do like your logic though, get the engine in an running enjoy it for a bit then strap the turbo on ;-)

dave