Remapping? is it worth it??

Remapping? is it worth it??

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savage86

Original Poster:

9 posts

197 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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i have a seat leon 1.9 tdi (105bhp) i have looked about at remapping and was wondering if anyone else has the same car or simular remapped and was wondering is it worth it?

mark_mcd87

42 posts

220 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Yes on a turbo engined car such as yours. Off the top of my head a decent remap would give you about 140-150bhp. Very strong engines.

Baffled Spoon

5,252 posts

200 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Remapping on a turboed car is well worth it if you want some extra power for not much money. Make sure you go to a reputable tuner however (such as Jabba Sport or Tunit).

Be aware however that increasing power will also increase wear on some engine components and clutches especially. A 30 bhp or so increase should give you a good noticeable boost in performance without unduly affecting reliability.

Pulse

10,922 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Just make sure you don't give it too much torque in the lower gears etc, and your clutch should be fine. Any tuner that is any good will normally be able to discuss this with you, and map it to how you want (within reason).

pimpin gimp

3,295 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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you sure it's a 105bhp engine?

chipped uk give these figures for a 110 engine

Seat Leon 1.9 TDI 110 Stock
Remapped

Power (hp) 110 hp 143 hp
Torque (Nm) 235 Nm 290 Nm

flattotheboards

6,687 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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pimpin gimp said:
you sure it's a 105bhp engine?

chipped uk give these figures for a 110 engine

Seat Leon 1.9 TDI 110 Stock
Remapped

Power (hp) 110 hp 143 hp
Torque (Nm) 235 Nm 290 Nm
105bhp is the new version 110bhp is the old version.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

201 months

Friday 16th May 2008
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I think Re-mapping is great. Do it mate!!

I have found a company which makes tuning boxes. Seems promising and they seem to offer more power than some ECU re-mapping companies!

GCL Tuning

28 posts

197 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Hello...for the 1.9 tdi you would be looking at a minumum of 30% increase in BHP and 50% in torque...so a minimum of 136 BHP after a map. Like someone has already mentioned, make sure you go to a reptuble tuner however it is also important to realise that unless you are having a customised remap, all standard performace remap files come from the same place, which us tuners have to go to and purchase...(VAG files are all trailed and tested in Germany and then sold to us remappers) so whether you pay £250 or £600 you will be looking at the same increases(unless of course you have a custom map eg you want the car to take off at a certain rev level ect)
Who ever you go to, as long as they have good reliable equipment then you will end up with very good gains. We work alongisde Chipped UK so our remap gains on this model would be the same. Some other companies may quote different but I like to say the minimum gains though, as you dont 100% know what your car is running at currently(obviously the older the car the more horses it loses)and also you will be exceeded in your expectations!

dxb335d

2,905 posts

201 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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GCL Tuning said:
Hello...for the 1.9 tdi you would be looking at a minumum of 30% increase in BHP and 50% in torque...so a minimum of 136 BHP after a map. Like someone has already mentioned, make sure you go to a reptuble tuner however it is also important to realise that unless you are having a customised remap, all standard performace remap files come from the same place, which us tuners have to go to and purchase...(VAG files are all trailed and tested in Germany and then sold to us remappers) so whether you pay £250 or £600 you will be looking at the same increases(unless of course you have a custom map eg you want the car to take off at a certain rev level ect)
Who ever you go to, as long as they have good reliable equipment then you will end up with very good gains. We work alongisde Chipped UK so our remap gains on this model would be the same. Some other companies may quote different but I like to say the minimum gains though, as you dont 100% know what your car is running at currently(obviously the older the car the more horses it loses)and also you will be exceeded in your expectations!
I disgree with you, some companies files are slightly different to others.

I have been on Rolling road days where there have been several of the same car tuned and untuned and there are differences between maps!

GCL Tuning

28 posts

197 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Yes you are right...some companies have different types of equipment and they write their own files or they can create custom files based on the cars original map, so yes there will be different files. But the point im trying to make is that companys may use different files but the gains will be around the same eg our non-custom maps will be the same as ChippedUK's, as we use the same files as them.
All im saying is that make sure you go to a reptuble company, and shop around because you can get the same quality map and the same gains at very varying prices, it depends if you want to pay the extra just for the name.

Deluded

4,968 posts

197 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Remapping is definatly worth is as far as Pounds for horses go.

I used to own a Fiat Punto JTD. 85hp (ish) as standard and had it remapped to approx 120hp for £300. Felt like I was driving a completly different car after the remap.

Make sure the clutch is upto scratch before going for it though. All that extra torque & power will make any problems alot more evident.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

201 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Deluded said:
Remapping is definatly worth is as far as Pounds for horses go.

I used to own a Fiat Punto JTD. 85hp (ish) as standard and had it remapped to approx 120hp for £300. Felt like I was driving a completly different car after the remap.

Make sure the clutch is upto scratch before going for it though. All that extra torque & power will make any problems alot more evident.
Was that a proven increase (ie on a r/r) Thats impressive for a car with such little power to start with

Deluded

4,968 posts

197 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Not proven on my car but a friend (through another car forum) with the same model and the same remap from the same company had his rolling roaded at 118.6bhp and something silly torque.

The company itself quotes an increase of 50bhp although this seems a little bit over the top. Bearing in mind though that the same basic engine was also available in the Fiat Bravo with 105bhp as standard.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

201 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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Deluded said:
Not proven on my car but a friend (through another car forum) with the same model and the same remap from the same company had his rolling roaded at 118.6bhp and something silly torque.

The company itself quotes an increase of 50bhp although this seems a little bit over the top. Bearing in mind though that the same basic engine was also available in the Fiat Bravo with 105bhp as standard.
Fair enough mate, and mus transform the performance. Nice one.

petermansell

868 posts

212 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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I had my CLK55 AMG remapped and delimited by DMS but IMO it wasn’t worth the £1K+. frown Okay I did get 163mph at Vmax Glacier but that’s about the only benefit. smile

dxb335d

2,905 posts

201 months

Monday 19th May 2008
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petermansell said:
I had my CLK55 AMG remapped and delimited by DMS but IMO it wasn’t worth the £1K+. frown Okay I did get 163mph at Vmax Glacier but that’s about the only benefit. smile
I got my car mapped also by DMS Automotive, didnt pay that high price though!

Very happy with the car and aftercare etc.

Car went from a 13.9@101.5mph quarter mile to a 13.5@105mph.

Datron timed 0-60: 5.4 0-100: 12.5 compared to stock figures of 5.8 and 13.7.

Car goes really well now!