elise s and r

[bordseye]

couldnt get sense out of the dealer. does anyone know what is the exact engine difference between the two ie are they different toyota engines or is the r a lotus tuned version of the s.

how easy is it to turn an r into an s?

[Altrezia]

S is Supercharged isn't it? or is that the SC?

[VladTheDad]

The S is the base model. The R has the power cam which kicks in at 6250 rpm and so revs higher and has more top-end power than th S. The SC is supercharged.

Edited by VladTheDad on Sunday 13th April 11:08

[Xenocide]

You should also probably find another dealer if that one's so incompetent.

[MJK 24]

R has variable valve timing.

S doesn't.

135bhp vs 189bhp.

[Mattt]

Where are you based? A PHer works at Castle Lotus near Stansted airport, and he'd be able to give you all the answers you need.

[CooperS]

Also just because the R has the better 0 - 60 figures it doesn't mean you should discount the S after driving the two I was more drawn to the liner power by the S...

Drive both see which one fits your needs.

Edited by CooperS on Monday 14th April 11:27

[L100NYY]

Elise S has the 134bhp @ 6200rpm and a torque figure of 127lb ft @4200rpm. It is the 1.8 Toyota engine that is used in the Corolla and is fitted with the 5 speed gearbox. It also has variable valve timing.

The Elise R has the 189bhp engine, produced @ 7800rpm, and has a torque figure of 133lb ft @6800rpm. The Toyota engine used in the R is effectively the same as used in the Celica but is re-worked by Yamaha Motorsport and again has the Variable Valve Timing but also Variable Cam profile.

I would thoroughly recommend driving both as some people prefer the power delivery characteristics of the S over the R and vice versa.

Hope this helps.

Ben

[SB - Nigel]

I agree with the two posts above - what seems the most impressive on a test drive can be overall the less enjoyable in actual ownership, try both cars but on different days with different expectations of what you want

Unless you're going to do a lot of track stuff with the car you may prefer the more linear power delivery for real life fun driving on our roads

[Saied]

The one clear advantage the Elise R has over the S is in overtaking. The 2nd cam gives that extra burst of acceleration for overtaking slower cars on single carriageway A and B roads.

Comes in handy driving on the south east's congested roads.

[CooperS]

Saied said:

The one clear advantage the Elise R has over the S is in overtaking. The 2nd cam gives that extra burst of acceleration for overtaking slower cars on single carriageway A and B roads.

Comes in handy driving on the south east's congested roads.

Sorry to come in again on this, but this is the sort of advice and knowledge that isn't something you can pick up on a test drive.