Good first car?

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The Dishwasher

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131 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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What do you guy's think then?

Yay or neigh?

After something a bit more interesting than the norm.

Insurance quotes I have recieved have been about the same price as a 1.0 Micra.

jamesgrrr

3,770 posts

227 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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That gets a 'yay' based purely on the fact that the description states 'this car is far from being a minger'

hardcorehobbit

1,103 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Yay. Get that. It's effin cool.

The Dishwasher

Original Poster:

131 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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How much do you think I can haggle her down to?

Was on eBay for the last couple of weeks.

It's Japanese, so in theory it should be reliable smile.

And it's gold!

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Amazing to see one of those ! Later reg than I remember them being

The reason you don't see any was the way they rusted, not even the rust is left now

Small engine, nice body style that all I can remember

So it's a YAY

A true rare classic

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Baffled Spoon

5,252 posts

200 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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That is very cool for a first car. Like it thumbup

The Dishwasher

Original Poster:

131 posts

202 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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SB - Nigel said:
Amazing to see one of those ! Later reg than I remember them being

The reason you don't see any was the way they rusted, not even the rust is left now

Small engine, nice body style that all I can remember

So it's a YAY

A true rare classic

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What is the best way to stop rust do you reckon?

Asked her a few questions, only a little rust on the doors and wings.

If I get it (which I really want to do, as it seems to be getting the thumbs up from you guys biggrin), some tasty mods will be following afterwards smile.

Carbon-Me1

451 posts

203 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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What is the best way to stop rust do you reckon?

Asked her a few questions, only a little rust on the doors and wings.

If I get it (which I really want to do, as it seems to be getting the thumbs up from you guys biggrin), some tasty mods will be following afterwards smile.
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I wouldn't bother 'modding' it. it's your first car!

ph1l5

5,025 posts

208 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Ha Ha My Dad had one in Whit around 25 years ago. He was cool, so shall you be.

andye30m3

3,466 posts

260 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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that would make a cool first car, bit different from and old corsa or fiesta.

A guy I knew had a ford anglia as his frist car in bright orange with a cow skin interior.

ELAN+2

2,232 posts

238 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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The Dishwasher said:
SB - Nigel said:
Amazing to see one of those ! Later reg than I remember them being

The reason you don't see any was the way they rusted, not even the rust is left now

Small engine, nice body style that all I can remember

So it's a YAY

A true rare classic

thumbup
What is the best way to stop rust do you reckon?

Asked her a few questions, only a little rust on the doors and wings.

If I get it (which I really want to do, as it seems to be getting the thumbs up from you guys biggrin), some tasty mods will be following afterwards smile.
Keep it standard or you'll ruin/devalue it, you could add 'period' modifications but watch the insurance premiums rocket. It's good to see a 'young un' bucking the chavved up shopping trolley norm!

The Dishwasher

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131 posts

202 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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ELAN+2 said:
The Dishwasher said:
What is the best way to stop rust do you reckon?

Asked her a few questions, only a little rust on the doors and wings.

If I get it (which I really want to do, as it seems to be getting the thumbs up from you guys biggrin), some tasty mods will be following afterwards smile.
Keep it standard or you'll ruin/devalue it, you could add 'period' modifications but watch the insurance premiums rocket. It's good to see a 'young un' bucking the chavved up shopping trolley norm!
Maybe some black steelies that used to be the Japanese sporty car norm?

And possibly a straight through exhaust?

I'd always keep the standard parts aswell, so I don't end up devaluing it.

I think I could get away with not telling the insurance company that don't you think?

Edited by The Dishwasher on Friday 11th April 21:37

SamHH

5,050 posts

222 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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If the seller's saying "a little bit of surface rust", I'd be tempted to think what she really means is "quite a lot of structural rust". Of course, you can look for yourself when you go to see it, but don't get your heart set on one particular car and then end up ignoring or not checking for major faults. With regards to modifications, you have to notify your insurer of pretty much anything, so check if it will increase your premium and by how much beforehand. Different wheels and a straight through exhaust (which, by the way, I imagine would be unpleasantly noisy) are certainly things that you'd have to inform them about. If you don't, your insurance could be invalid.

As to whether it's a good type of car, I'm not sure. Have you ever driven a car from that era because I imagine it'll be quite far removed from what a modern car drives like. That might be a good thing, you might love it. However don't go for a car based simply on what people on Pistonheads think is cool. Go for a car based on what you actually like.

ELAN+2

2,232 posts

238 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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SamHH said:


As to whether it's a good type of car, I'm not sure. Have you ever driven a car from that era because I imagine it'll be quite far removed from what a modern car drives like. That might be a good thing, you might love it. However don't go for a car based simply on what people on Pistonheads think is cool. Go for a car based on what you actually like.
Fair comment Sam, I remember being given a lift in one of these by a neighbour when they were new, most run of the mill cars of the time where a tad Archaic to say the least, leaf sprung live axles being the norm with plenty of axle tramp! I had a bit of a shock when I drove a 2.8I Capri recently after a 10 year break, I'm sure the ones I had were much more refined!!I think most of us take for granted the advances in modern vehicle technology. Still I rekon a nice clean old car would be a trendy new motor for a young driver to cut thier teeth on. If he takes it steady and looks after the car, a lot of money could be saved in depreciation,maintenance costs and the keeping up with the Kevins in thier nova/corsa/saxo's. In my mind anti fashion is cooler than the latest trend!

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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I agree with the two guys above but most of what they say would apply to any older car and I think classic cars help anyone to drive better compared to modern cars

Forget putting mods on save your money for keeping the car roadworthy and not telling the insurance will completely b*gger you up for future years if you've invovled in an accident (and you probably will be if mods are a priority to you)

Dealing with rust ! ! - don't have it or have a LOT of money to deal with it

If it has a lot of rust (remember the iceburg principle) walk away it's that simple

If it has a manageable amount of rust recognise that the car will not last forever and pay accordingly, deal with as much rust as you can and/or lashings of Waxoyl (if you don't know what that is then you need to do a lot more research before buying a classic car)

okgo

39,144 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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SamHH said:
If the seller's saying "a little bit of surface rust", I'd be tempted to think what she really means is "quite a lot of structural rust". Of course, you can look for yourself when you go to see it, but don't get your heart set on one particular car and then end up ignoring or not checking for major faults. With regards to modifications, you have to notify your insurer of pretty much anything, so check if it will increase your premium and by how much beforehand. Different wheels and a straight through exhaust (which, by the way, I imagine would be unpleasantly noisy) are certainly things that you'd have to inform them about. If you don't, your insurance could be invalid.

As to whether it's a good type of car, I'm not sure. Have you ever driven a car from that era because I imagine it'll be quite far removed from what a modern car drives like. That might be a good thing, you might love it. However don't go for a car based simply on what people on Pistonheads think is cool. Go for a car based on what you actually like.
Agree with that.

I wouldnt buy one as I wouldnt want the noise/lack of any speed/handling

I see it as a cool looking car, but when you get over the honeymoon period of your first car, which is about 2 months. And treat it as transport Id be willing to bet you will get bored of driving that,

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

240 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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okgo said:
I wouldnt buy one as I wouldnt want the noise/lack of any speed/handling

I see it as a cool looking car, but when you get over the honeymoon period of your first car, which is about 2 months. And treat it as transport Id be willing to bet you will get bored of driving that,
Unless mummy and daddy are buying the car or the buyer wants to put himself in a lot a debt (and I can't believe just how many of both actually are on PH) what first car can you get for little money that has speed and handling and low insurance?

As for the two month honeymoon period of the first car that probably happens more when mummy and daddy have bought their kids a sensible more modern car

With a classic there is more interest and skill in driving for the owner and probably hands on running repairs that teach the owner more about cars and driving and initiative and independence

sniff petrol

13,111 posts

218 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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Go for it, I would in your position. Plus as a bonus it'll be rather simple and straight forward to work on yourself (if maybe a bit more difficult to get parts for) and that'll stand you in good steed for the future.

okgo

39,144 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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SB - Nigel said:
okgo said:
I wouldnt buy one as I wouldnt want the noise/lack of any speed/handling

I see it as a cool looking car, but when you get over the honeymoon period of your first car, which is about 2 months. And treat it as transport Id be willing to bet you will get bored of driving that,
Unless mummy and daddy are buying the car or the buyer wants to put himself in a lot a debt (and I can't believe just how many of both actually are on PH) what first car can you get for little money that has speed and handling and low insurance?

As for the two month honeymoon period of the first car that probably happens more when mummy and daddy have bought their kids a sensible more modern car

With a classic there is more interest and skill in driving for the owner and probably hands on running repairs that teach the owner more about cars and driving and initiative and independence
Mummy and daddy bought me fk all, so you can sack that idea.

I dont mean speed and handling, more that said car is going to have a distinct lack of either.

I would be much happier driving down the motorway in an older clio or polo or ford than I would something thats at least 10 years older than the op if he is indeed 17.

I do not doubt that they will teach you valuable life skills in terms of mechanics. But I would rather have a 700 quid ford, and a restoration job on the side than, have one of these as an only car.

And the insurance of the said cars all about the same.. being circa 1k.Honeymoon period!! I got bored of the feista I bought very quickly. But it did its job well, even when I rolled it into a field hehe

And I totally agree with you when people have bought their kids a nice new mini or whatever.. Its stupid, they have no respect for anything, and dont know how to even begin to diagnose problems, let alone change a wheel. I am not one however, and am offering a young persons opinion, that has just got out of the first few years of driving and knows what you will and wont get bored of..

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Edited by okgo on Saturday 12th April 13:03