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Been on Pistonheads for a few weeks now been mainly hiding in the new MINI forum, an before that i was lurking just reading the boards. Well this is my MINI. Its a 2004 54 Cooper S so its the facelift model with the slightly more agressive 1st an 2nd gearing, more out of the box power, the car was John cooper Works converted at 600miles to roughly 210bhp. I bought it at 6 months old an have further tweeked it, an probably will keep doing. Here are some Photos an its current spec:-
Spec:-
Engine:-
Magnaflow cat back exhaust
John cooper works airbox with removed plugs
John cooper Works 380cc injectors
John cooper Works Head
John cooper remaped ECU
Miltek Header
GTT lightweight crank pulley
Lohen protector
GRS large top mount intercooler
GTT 17% supercharger pulley
GTT JCW airbox filter insert
Transmission:-
Quaife ATB diff
Spec paddle Clutch
Mini mania flywheel
Supension:-
KW Variant 2 coilovers
John cooper works motosport strut brace
Brakes:-
Brembo 4 pot callipers
330mm grooved discs
Braided hoses
AP 551 fluid
Wheels:-
17” BBS Rc
Yokohama Prada Spec 2 205/40/17 tyres
Exterior:-
Full BMW areodynamic bodykit
Auxillary driving lamps
Tinted windows all round
LED side lights
JCW carbon fibre scoop
JCW carbon fibre mirror covers
JCW carbon fibre boot handle
Interior:-
John cooper works sparco reclining bucket seats
Greddy boost gauge
Schnitzer Gear knob
Hope you all like
Spec:-
Engine:-
Magnaflow cat back exhaust
John cooper works airbox with removed plugs
John cooper Works 380cc injectors
John cooper Works Head
John cooper remaped ECU
Miltek Header
GTT lightweight crank pulley
Lohen protector
GRS large top mount intercooler
GTT 17% supercharger pulley
GTT JCW airbox filter insert
Transmission:-
Quaife ATB diff
Spec paddle Clutch
Mini mania flywheel
Supension:-
KW Variant 2 coilovers
John cooper works motosport strut brace
Brakes:-
Brembo 4 pot callipers
330mm grooved discs
Braided hoses
AP 551 fluid
Wheels:-
17” BBS Rc
Yokohama Prada Spec 2 205/40/17 tyres
Exterior:-
Full BMW areodynamic bodykit
Auxillary driving lamps
Tinted windows all round
LED side lights
JCW carbon fibre scoop
JCW carbon fibre mirror covers
JCW carbon fibre boot handle
Interior:-
John cooper works sparco reclining bucket seats
Greddy boost gauge
Schnitzer Gear knob
Hope you all like
Edited by Loui on Friday 16th February 23:31
Edited by Loui on Friday 16th February 23:32
jolly said:
Hi mate,
Allready said so in the MINI forum, but its a beauty! I should imagine it gets the power down well? Have you had her on a rolling road?
James
Allready said so in the MINI forum, but its a beauty! I should imagine it gets the power down well? Have you had her on a rolling road?
James
Thanks James, The car is going back on the rollers on the 3rd of march at powerstation in tweksbury, last time basically as a standard 210 works its made 156hp @ the wheels, this time im hoping to be in the region of 190WHP maybe 200WHP if im lucky but from what ive seen i really need to get the head seriously opened up, an a high lift cam fitted.
You are more than welcome to join us on the 3rd if you would like jolly £30 a run, theres more on Miniaddiction about that
Cool - I'd love to join you - even tho mine is only a D. But combination of being at uni and living too far away are going to make it difficult. Thanks for the offer though.
Now for a really stupid question .....
Whats the difference between 'normal' hp and wheel hp? Because as you say the works kit is 210bhp - and you said yours made 156 whp, so I'm guessing there is a big difference between the two? So what is it making in 'normal' hp?
Sorry to sound stupid.
Now for a really stupid question .....
Whats the difference between 'normal' hp and wheel hp? Because as you say the works kit is 210bhp - and you said yours made 156 whp, so I'm guessing there is a big difference between the two? So what is it making in 'normal' hp?
Sorry to sound stupid.
jolly said:
Cool - I'd love to join you - even tho mine is only a D. But combination of being at uni and living too far away are going to make it difficult. Thanks for the offer though.
Now for a really stupid question .....
Whats the difference between 'normal' hp and wheel hp? Because as you say the works kit is 210bhp - and you said yours made 156 whp, so I'm guessing there is a big difference between the two? So what is it making in 'normal' hp?
Sorry to sound stupid.
Now for a really stupid question .....
Whats the difference between 'normal' hp and wheel hp? Because as you say the works kit is 210bhp - and you said yours made 156 whp, so I'm guessing there is a big difference between the two? So what is it making in 'normal' hp?
Sorry to sound stupid.
WHP - horse power at the actual wheels
BHP - Brake horse power - done on an engine dyno out of the car, can be worked back from WHP on a rolling road but isnt always the most accurate, an dosent take transmission losses in to account.
BHP wise i would say mine should be about 230- 240 bhp
Bhp - pub horse power (big numbers)
WHP - True power whats being delivered to the road
Being a D dosent matter on the 3rd one guy is bringing his tuned d to the RR day. Id say you could do it in 2 hours from liverpool, an with 60mpg an only £30 to run its a must LOL would be nice to meet you too
Very nice mini. We had one for a week and it was a right laugh. I have a vivid memory of speeeding onto a roundabout in the wet and sliding round it
I also have seen the BBR-Gti/Morego MINIs, and they're epic. They had two in the workshop, a mild 225bhp model and a WILD 300bhp (on the dyno) Cooper S! They're also working on stuff for the new, new MINI.
I also have seen the BBR-Gti/Morego MINIs, and they're epic. They had two in the workshop, a mild 225bhp model and a WILD 300bhp (on the dyno) Cooper S! They're also working on stuff for the new, new MINI.
Loui said:
HP - horse power at the actual wheels
BHP - Brake horse power - done on an engine dyno out of the car, can be worked back from WHP on a rolling road but isnt always the most accurate, an dosent take transmission losses in to account.
BHP wise i would say mine should be about 230- 240 bhp
Bhp - pub horse power (big numbers)
WHP - True power whats being delivered to the road
Being a D dosent matter on the 3rd one guy is bringing his tuned d to the RR day. Id say you could do it in 2 hours from liverpool, an with 60mpg an only £30 to run its a must LOL would be nice to meet you too
BHP - Brake horse power - done on an engine dyno out of the car, can be worked back from WHP on a rolling road but isnt always the most accurate, an dosent take transmission losses in to account.
BHP wise i would say mine should be about 230- 240 bhp
Bhp - pub horse power (big numbers)
WHP - True power whats being delivered to the road
Being a D dosent matter on the 3rd one guy is bringing his tuned d to the RR day. Id say you could do it in 2 hours from liverpool, an with 60mpg an only £30 to run its a must LOL would be nice to meet you too
Thanks for clearing that up, not up to speed with all the technical stuff!
On the rolling road day - I dont think I'm going to be able to make it, as I unfortunatley have to leave my car at home while I'm at uni - because I cant afford £800 a year for city centre parking fees!
If there is one in the summer months - I'll be back home so I may well make an effort to attend!
I think I'm going to start making a few posts on miniaddiction, mini2 is annoying me of late. Stuff like loads of stupid american moderators who delete topics for no reason and send you abusive pm's
identti said:
Very nice mini. We had one for a week and it was a right laugh. I have a vivid memory of speeeding onto a roundabout in the wet and sliding round it
I also have seen the BBR-Gti/Morego MINIs, and they're epic. They had two in the workshop, a mild 225bhp model and a WILD 300bhp (on the dyno) Cooper S! They're also working on stuff for the new, new MINI.
I also have seen the BBR-Gti/Morego MINIs, and they're epic. They had two in the workshop, a mild 225bhp model and a WILD 300bhp (on the dyno) Cooper S! They're also working on stuff for the new, new MINI.
Heard mixed reports about BBR, very good stuff in the early days of there conversions an not so good things recently which is a shame as with the success`s brodie britain had in the days of the cossie were pretty legendary.
All the bits on my car at present are either john cooper works or GT Tuning fitted by Lohen in eccleshall, im pretty happy with it as it is at the moment but im looking into removing the supercharger an turbo charging, but waiting to see how long the engines are lasting.
jolly said:
Loui said:
HP - horse power at the actual wheels
BHP - Brake horse power - done on an engine dyno out of the car, can be worked back from WHP on a rolling road but isnt always the most accurate, an dosent take transmission losses in to account.
BHP wise i would say mine should be about 230- 240 bhp
Bhp - pub horse power (big numbers)
WHP - True power whats being delivered to the road
Being a D dosent matter on the 3rd one guy is bringing his tuned d to the RR day. Id say you could do it in 2 hours from liverpool, an with 60mpg an only £30 to run its a must LOL would be nice to meet you too
BHP - Brake horse power - done on an engine dyno out of the car, can be worked back from WHP on a rolling road but isnt always the most accurate, an dosent take transmission losses in to account.
BHP wise i would say mine should be about 230- 240 bhp
Bhp - pub horse power (big numbers)
WHP - True power whats being delivered to the road
Being a D dosent matter on the 3rd one guy is bringing his tuned d to the RR day. Id say you could do it in 2 hours from liverpool, an with 60mpg an only £30 to run its a must LOL would be nice to meet you too
Thanks for clearing that up, not up to speed with all the technical stuff!
On the rolling road day - I dont think I'm going to be able to make it, as I unfortunatley have to leave my car at home while I'm at uni - because I cant afford £800 a year for city centre parking fees!
If there is one in the summer months - I'll be back home so I may well make an effort to attend!
I think I'm going to start making a few posts on miniaddiction, mini2 is annoying me of late. Stuff like loads of stupid american moderators who delete topics for no reason and send you abusive pm's
No probs on the RR day jolly, there will be plenty going on in the summer months.
Let me guess miniac on mini2? Your more than welcome on MA
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