Zuban's track/sprint Clio 200 RS
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I bought this car back in 2015 and have steadily been modding it ready for track and sprint use.
Its a 2010 liquid yellow clio rs200, previous owner had already fitted kwv3 coilovers, and had it setup by Mark Fish, it came stock with the recaro seats but I fairly early on sold those and fitted a pair of mirco GT buckets, primarily because even on street tyres i was falling out of the recaro's under heavy cornering, they are also worth a lot and the money went towards the seats and a rear roll cage. At that point not much else had been done to it although i stripped the rear out fairly early on.
This is how it looked at the time
Around September 2018 I took it off the road and started the first major set of changes focused on the front end.
Engine into the shed
Ready for the cambelt and waterpump to be changes, whilst I was at it, I also swapped crank pully for a lightweight one, and swapped the exhaust pulley for an undamped unit from a megane 225 as the original is 1.2kg and the megane one is 460 grams and i had it anyway.
At some point during this the cover and manifold were painted, and ignore the different altenator setup, I never ended up going with it, but am revisiting that to see if its viable. I think I retimed it 3 times in all trying to make sure I had done it right!
ARP rod bolts fitted
Alongside that I popped the gearbox open to fit a val racing diff, along with new bearings and a new slave.
I bought the front subframe and associated parts from a clio cup race car and set about modding the front subframe to take the lower engine mount. At the moment I only have the subframe fitted, the EE brackets and other parts will be fitted some time in the future.
Bought a Pure motorsport exhaust system which is a beautiful thing
I wanted to swap from the stock 17 inch wheels to 16's for a couple of reasons, wheels were cheaper and lighter, and it allowed me to play around with the final drive a bit without having to change the pinion in the gearbox. This required a little material to be taken off the calipers, but its something clio 172/182 owners have done to get the mk3 clio's brembo's under their 15's and doesn't cause any issue. I managed to get 3mm clearance removing hardly any material. The wheels are JR3's, and weigh about half the stock rims.
As a slight diversion, if anyone ever wondered if the wing on the clio 197/200 does anything then yes it does, I built a model of the car to use with openfoam
Without
With, it helps the diffuser work
So in amongst all this I got married, had two kids and that all took place over the period of almost three years whilst i focused on all of that, then in April 2022 I got on with putting it back together. On the way back in a lightweight flywheel and new clutch was fitted.
MOT acheived!
Its a 2010 liquid yellow clio rs200, previous owner had already fitted kwv3 coilovers, and had it setup by Mark Fish, it came stock with the recaro seats but I fairly early on sold those and fitted a pair of mirco GT buckets, primarily because even on street tyres i was falling out of the recaro's under heavy cornering, they are also worth a lot and the money went towards the seats and a rear roll cage. At that point not much else had been done to it although i stripped the rear out fairly early on.
This is how it looked at the time
Around September 2018 I took it off the road and started the first major set of changes focused on the front end.
Engine into the shed
Ready for the cambelt and waterpump to be changes, whilst I was at it, I also swapped crank pully for a lightweight one, and swapped the exhaust pulley for an undamped unit from a megane 225 as the original is 1.2kg and the megane one is 460 grams and i had it anyway.
At some point during this the cover and manifold were painted, and ignore the different altenator setup, I never ended up going with it, but am revisiting that to see if its viable. I think I retimed it 3 times in all trying to make sure I had done it right!
ARP rod bolts fitted
Alongside that I popped the gearbox open to fit a val racing diff, along with new bearings and a new slave.
I bought the front subframe and associated parts from a clio cup race car and set about modding the front subframe to take the lower engine mount. At the moment I only have the subframe fitted, the EE brackets and other parts will be fitted some time in the future.
Bought a Pure motorsport exhaust system which is a beautiful thing
I wanted to swap from the stock 17 inch wheels to 16's for a couple of reasons, wheels were cheaper and lighter, and it allowed me to play around with the final drive a bit without having to change the pinion in the gearbox. This required a little material to be taken off the calipers, but its something clio 172/182 owners have done to get the mk3 clio's brembo's under their 15's and doesn't cause any issue. I managed to get 3mm clearance removing hardly any material. The wheels are JR3's, and weigh about half the stock rims.
As a slight diversion, if anyone ever wondered if the wing on the clio 197/200 does anything then yes it does, I built a model of the car to use with openfoam
Without
With, it helps the diffuser work
So in amongst all this I got married, had two kids and that all took place over the period of almost three years whilst i focused on all of that, then in April 2022 I got on with putting it back together. On the way back in a lightweight flywheel and new clutch was fitted.
MOT acheived!
To bring this up to date, i was recently at golspie sprint track, before I went I wanted the alignment checked, and got the car corner weighted.
The setup was pretty good given my driveway is not flat and I had to raise it on blocks of wood to level it just to get a basic setup on it. All it needed was the front toe adjusted.
It was good to see the weight, that was wet with 50% fuel, these are listed as 1234kg standard, and I've added back in a cage, but its reignited my desire to find more weight savings. The Mirco GT's fia approval expired in 2022 and I fancied a change so I have changed them for Sparco Grid QRT's which also save about 2kg per seat.
I've never been happy about the height of the side mounts I had, I've always found them a little to low which knocked my confidence in placing the front corners of the car when pushing hard, also there was half a mile from the top of my head to the roof so plenty of room to go up a little. After contacting all the makers of side mounts they were either no different to my own, or just ignored me.
So I set about designing and making my own from 5mm aluminium 6080 alloy and 6.3mm 6080 allow angle for the brackets and high tensile bolts.
First test fit, ignore state of the floor, its going to be repainted and foot plate put in the near future
Really happy with how they turned out, came in at 1.5kg per side and save around 7kg per side. I've yet to make the other side yet so currently under 1100kg and have a pretty decent list of things to do to save more weight.
So thats it up to date!.
Spec list as it stands
Engine/gearbox :
ARP rod bolts.
Alloy lightweight crank pulley.
Solid exhaust cam pulley (~700grams lighter than standard).
TTV lightweight flywheel.
OEM Renault clutch plate and cover (new not remanufactured).
TRW clutch slave.
VAL LSD fitted along with new Renault diff bearings and gearbox seals.
Pure motorsport exhaust manifold.
Pure motorsport exhaust system with 200 cell sports cat and silencer.
Lightweight Powerlite LIPO battery (just over 2kg iirc).
Air Con delete with cup idler pulley.
Pure motorsport competition engine mounts
Chassis :
KW V3 coilovers.
Compbrake front camber plates with custom machined mounts to fit the KW V3's and strut top modified to allow them to fit and adjust.
Powerflex black series front ARB bushes.
Superpro caster bushes in front wishbones.
All wishbone and swivel hub bushes replaced with uprated bushes from Rene.
ARB links replaced with new Mehle links.
Hub to wishbone links and all other hardware replaced with new OEM Renault parts
Genuine Clio cup racer front subframe (solid bushes) with lower engine link bracket added, associated front uprights to mount to chassis legs and aluminium X brace. Subframe mounting bolts are to cup racer spec.
Brakes :
Brembo high carbon disks on the front.
Renault R26 drilled rears with OEM bearings.
Braided brake lines front and rear.
Front Brembo calipers have been rebuilt with new pistons and seals.
TYP200 brake fluid.
Ferodo DS1.11 pads front.
Ferodo DS2500 pads rear.
Wheels/Tyres :
Japan racing JR3 16 inch wheels (6.7KG per rim)
Federal ST1 205/45/16 tyres.
10mm spacers on front for brake clearence.
5mm spacers rear.
Interior :
Stripped interior.
Safety devices bolt in rear half cage with harness bar.
TRS 6 point harness's in yellow.
Sparco Grid QRT fixed bucket seats.
Custom alloy seat mounts.
Lighter cup model dashboard.
The setup was pretty good given my driveway is not flat and I had to raise it on blocks of wood to level it just to get a basic setup on it. All it needed was the front toe adjusted.
It was good to see the weight, that was wet with 50% fuel, these are listed as 1234kg standard, and I've added back in a cage, but its reignited my desire to find more weight savings. The Mirco GT's fia approval expired in 2022 and I fancied a change so I have changed them for Sparco Grid QRT's which also save about 2kg per seat.
I've never been happy about the height of the side mounts I had, I've always found them a little to low which knocked my confidence in placing the front corners of the car when pushing hard, also there was half a mile from the top of my head to the roof so plenty of room to go up a little. After contacting all the makers of side mounts they were either no different to my own, or just ignored me.
So I set about designing and making my own from 5mm aluminium 6080 alloy and 6.3mm 6080 allow angle for the brackets and high tensile bolts.
First test fit, ignore state of the floor, its going to be repainted and foot plate put in the near future
Really happy with how they turned out, came in at 1.5kg per side and save around 7kg per side. I've yet to make the other side yet so currently under 1100kg and have a pretty decent list of things to do to save more weight.
So thats it up to date!.
Spec list as it stands
Engine/gearbox :
ARP rod bolts.
Alloy lightweight crank pulley.
Solid exhaust cam pulley (~700grams lighter than standard).
TTV lightweight flywheel.
OEM Renault clutch plate and cover (new not remanufactured).
TRW clutch slave.
VAL LSD fitted along with new Renault diff bearings and gearbox seals.
Pure motorsport exhaust manifold.
Pure motorsport exhaust system with 200 cell sports cat and silencer.
Lightweight Powerlite LIPO battery (just over 2kg iirc).
Air Con delete with cup idler pulley.
Pure motorsport competition engine mounts
Chassis :
KW V3 coilovers.
Compbrake front camber plates with custom machined mounts to fit the KW V3's and strut top modified to allow them to fit and adjust.
Powerflex black series front ARB bushes.
Superpro caster bushes in front wishbones.
All wishbone and swivel hub bushes replaced with uprated bushes from Rene.
ARB links replaced with new Mehle links.
Hub to wishbone links and all other hardware replaced with new OEM Renault parts
Genuine Clio cup racer front subframe (solid bushes) with lower engine link bracket added, associated front uprights to mount to chassis legs and aluminium X brace. Subframe mounting bolts are to cup racer spec.
Brakes :
Brembo high carbon disks on the front.
Renault R26 drilled rears with OEM bearings.
Braided brake lines front and rear.
Front Brembo calipers have been rebuilt with new pistons and seals.
TYP200 brake fluid.
Ferodo DS1.11 pads front.
Ferodo DS2500 pads rear.
Wheels/Tyres :
Japan racing JR3 16 inch wheels (6.7KG per rim)
Federal ST1 205/45/16 tyres.
10mm spacers on front for brake clearence.
5mm spacers rear.
Interior :
Stripped interior.
Safety devices bolt in rear half cage with harness bar.
TRS 6 point harness's in yellow.
Sparco Grid QRT fixed bucket seats.
Custom alloy seat mounts.
Lighter cup model dashboard.
Edited by Zuban on Monday 15th May 00:17
Thanks, how is it to drive, its a pretty visceral experience and probably feels faster than it is in a straight line because of it, in reality straight line performance is similar to an i30n or modern hatch in the 280-300bhp range. Cornering wise its great, the diff means you can be on the power a lot earlier than you think is possible.
When i was on the sprint track, on street tyres, during a tight hairpin corner it was pushing me so hard i pulled a muscle inside my abdomen which was extremely painful and meant I was in pain for the rest of the day, but overall the car outperformed my expectations, towards the end of my second run i was trying to unstick the rear but it was just so stable. There was many higher powered fwd cars there with one tyre fires or just unable to fully put down there power including a megane powered 197 which spun on the first corner, meantime my driven wheels felt irrelevant as I could apply full power wherever I wanted so it made for a great experience where I could just concentrate on getting faster as I got to learn the circuit and my confidence increased.
I still regret not taking my camera gear, its a very short track and I wasnt sure I would like it, but it made for an intense experience and the car was flawless and did exactly what it was built for.
When i was on the sprint track, on street tyres, during a tight hairpin corner it was pushing me so hard i pulled a muscle inside my abdomen which was extremely painful and meant I was in pain for the rest of the day, but overall the car outperformed my expectations, towards the end of my second run i was trying to unstick the rear but it was just so stable. There was many higher powered fwd cars there with one tyre fires or just unable to fully put down there power including a megane powered 197 which spun on the first corner, meantime my driven wheels felt irrelevant as I could apply full power wherever I wanted so it made for a great experience where I could just concentrate on getting faster as I got to learn the circuit and my confidence increased.
I still regret not taking my camera gear, its a very short track and I wasnt sure I would like it, but it made for an intense experience and the car was flawless and did exactly what it was built for.
mat205125 said:
Nice build, and love the CFD simulated effects of the wing.
Yes it's interesting. When I had my 200 without the rear wing,it always annoyed me that after washing it the rear of the car would be filthy after just a short run.It's as though the diffuser attracted all the crap onto the bumper and tailgate.
I could can now see that problem possibly dissapear with a rear wing.
Mr Magooagain said:
Yes it's interesting. When I had my 200 without the rear wing,it always annoyed me that after washing it the rear of the car would be filthy after just a short run.
It's as though the diffuser attracted all the crap onto the bumper and tailgate.
I could can now see that problem possibly dissapear with a rear wing.
I've not really noticed a correlation myself but you could be right when i think about it, i ran without the rear wing for a long time, and needed to use the rear wiper a lot, i've since put the wing back on and dont remember having to use it at all.It's as though the diffuser attracted all the crap onto the bumper and tailgate.
I could can now see that problem possibly dissapear with a rear wing.
Diffuser shot, this was with the wing on, you can see the flow lines of dirt deposits attached to it so it definitely works.
I have a existential dilemma of whether to run with or without the wing, as although it works, the actual difference it makes depends a bit on your circumstances, and is the benefit worth the drag.
Zuban said:
Mr Magooagain said:
Yes it's interesting. When I had my 200 without the rear wing,it always annoyed me that after washing it the rear of the car would be filthy after just a short run.
It's as though the diffuser attracted all the crap onto the bumper and tailgate.
I could can now see that problem possibly dissapear with a rear wing.
I've not really noticed a correlation myself but you could be right when i think about it, i ran without the rear wing for a long time, and needed to use the rear wiper a lot, i've since put the wing back on and dont remember having to use it at all.It's as though the diffuser attracted all the crap onto the bumper and tailgate.
I could can now see that problem possibly dissapear with a rear wing.
Diffuser shot, this was with the wing on, you can see the flow lines of dirt deposits attached to it so it definitely works.
I have a existential dilemma of whether to run with or without the wing, as although it works, the actual difference it makes depends a bit on your circumstances, and is the benefit worth the drag.
Maybe try it with and then without on the same hill climb. See if there's a marked time difference.
So I removed the wing and diffuser and the cars quicker is my feeling, I forgot I had run some CFD on this a while back and whilst the diffuser does work as intended, the volume of it is not enough to have any meaningful effect and at the speeds I will be competing at its closer to dead weight than useful.
anyway have made some small progress since last update.
Weight is down to around 1080kg and working on taking some more out. The alloy seat mount has held up fine to all manner of driving situations and remains completely rigid which is good.
Gave the engine and gearbox an oil change with some expensive millers oil. The oil that came out also showed no sign of anything to worry about which is good. Chucked the old JR pod filter and replaced it with a new ramair proram filter with new silicon elbow etc, waiting on parts to relocate the battery and then will be making some cold air feed etc for that.
I've been looking into alternative alternator solutions to cut weight, but as a decent interim I've fitted a mk2 clio lightweight pulley connected to the standard alternator with a stretch belt. I hacked the alternator bracket in half as well saving another kilo, This setup underdrives the alternator, and allows the tensioner and aircon/idler to be removed saving over 3kg overall.
Seeing as i've done the timing belt myself, its always been on my mind to get the car to a dyno to make sure i've done it right and its not down on power, with the weight of the car significantly less than when i started it could mask a loss of power. So I took it through to MB garage services and motorsport near Aberdeen, a lot of sprint cars from the area use them as well as some SLS competitors etc so seemed a good shout,
https://youtu.be/AEwdsbEvdZM
Good news is as suspected the engine is healthy with just the usual flatspot around 3krpm made worse by the removal of the first cat, hopefully having it mapped eventually will get rid of that but its not really a problem. Performance was strong given the spec and the dyno operator got out of the car and basically congratulated me on how well it did, specifically commenting on how normally he'd have backed off the throttle as power started to taper off, but my car was still increasing in power as it hit the limiter. Quite surprising given its still on the standard cams.
So all in pretty happy and i've got my baseline for future engine mods.
anyway have made some small progress since last update.
Weight is down to around 1080kg and working on taking some more out. The alloy seat mount has held up fine to all manner of driving situations and remains completely rigid which is good.
Gave the engine and gearbox an oil change with some expensive millers oil. The oil that came out also showed no sign of anything to worry about which is good. Chucked the old JR pod filter and replaced it with a new ramair proram filter with new silicon elbow etc, waiting on parts to relocate the battery and then will be making some cold air feed etc for that.
I've been looking into alternative alternator solutions to cut weight, but as a decent interim I've fitted a mk2 clio lightweight pulley connected to the standard alternator with a stretch belt. I hacked the alternator bracket in half as well saving another kilo, This setup underdrives the alternator, and allows the tensioner and aircon/idler to be removed saving over 3kg overall.
Seeing as i've done the timing belt myself, its always been on my mind to get the car to a dyno to make sure i've done it right and its not down on power, with the weight of the car significantly less than when i started it could mask a loss of power. So I took it through to MB garage services and motorsport near Aberdeen, a lot of sprint cars from the area use them as well as some SLS competitors etc so seemed a good shout,
https://youtu.be/AEwdsbEvdZM
Good news is as suspected the engine is healthy with just the usual flatspot around 3krpm made worse by the removal of the first cat, hopefully having it mapped eventually will get rid of that but its not really a problem. Performance was strong given the spec and the dyno operator got out of the car and basically congratulated me on how well it did, specifically commenting on how normally he'd have backed off the throttle as power started to taper off, but my car was still increasing in power as it hit the limiter. Quite surprising given its still on the standard cams.
So all in pretty happy and i've got my baseline for future engine mods.
Edited by Zuban on Sunday 11th June 21:18
Not much going on at the moment as i've been waiting to get through the MOT, put it in on monday and it failed on a corroded brake pipe, the long one that runs across the rear beam. It looked fine apart from where the pipe sat in the clips where the paint had stripped and the pipe had swollen up in one of them clips.
Not a big deal to change about 20 minutes work all in and was £41 for a new pipe, but worth a check as the MOT tester told me its a common area for the pipes to go on both the Clio's and Megane.
Other than that apart from some minor things like number plate lights, and some uneven wear on the rear discs it passed later on in the week, no issues with the latest changes to the seat mounts and also only have the drivers seat installed. My car doesnt do a lot of miles, but the miles it does are hard and it always impresses me how tough these cars are when looked after.
One of the changes I have a made recently is not running the rear diffuser and wing, I'm not finding any issues a result, its certainly not going to be an issue when I'm at the sprint track, but it saves about 10kg of weight. I revisited some of the old CFD I did, and whilst I could show the diffuser and wing was working, the sims I ran without them showed that the numbers were not huge between with and without. I remember the conclusion I came to at the time was that whilst they do have an effect, the volume of the diffuser isn't enough to give a large effect, especially on a 200 which has less diffuser volume than the 197.
The other thing I did was free up and soften up the suspension adjustments, the car is almost 200kg lighter than stock now, so having softened up the suspension quite a lot compared to where it started with the full interior, I've found myself picking up speed in almost every circumstance since doing it.
Little bit of a break in terms of mods for the next while, my other car is a 4.2tdi v8 q7, and its needing some attention, but once its sorted as I said planning on looking at the cooling system.
Would be interested to know from those who have replaced the oem heater matrix with a a lightweight heater for the screen what they used and how they have found it.
Not a big deal to change about 20 minutes work all in and was £41 for a new pipe, but worth a check as the MOT tester told me its a common area for the pipes to go on both the Clio's and Megane.
Other than that apart from some minor things like number plate lights, and some uneven wear on the rear discs it passed later on in the week, no issues with the latest changes to the seat mounts and also only have the drivers seat installed. My car doesnt do a lot of miles, but the miles it does are hard and it always impresses me how tough these cars are when looked after.
One of the changes I have a made recently is not running the rear diffuser and wing, I'm not finding any issues a result, its certainly not going to be an issue when I'm at the sprint track, but it saves about 10kg of weight. I revisited some of the old CFD I did, and whilst I could show the diffuser and wing was working, the sims I ran without them showed that the numbers were not huge between with and without. I remember the conclusion I came to at the time was that whilst they do have an effect, the volume of the diffuser isn't enough to give a large effect, especially on a 200 which has less diffuser volume than the 197.
The other thing I did was free up and soften up the suspension adjustments, the car is almost 200kg lighter than stock now, so having softened up the suspension quite a lot compared to where it started with the full interior, I've found myself picking up speed in almost every circumstance since doing it.
Little bit of a break in terms of mods for the next while, my other car is a 4.2tdi v8 q7, and its needing some attention, but once its sorted as I said planning on looking at the cooling system.
Would be interested to know from those who have replaced the oem heater matrix with a a lightweight heater for the screen what they used and how they have found it.
Not updated this recently so the last update was took the car on track up at Golspie at the track n show event, weather was a bit mixed but the car put in three hour sessions and was a lot of fun.
The Q7 towed it up from Inverness, the Q7 is probably worth a thread of its own being a 4.2TDI V8 that makes the work I've done on the Clio look easy...
The Q7 towed it up from Inverness, the Q7 is probably worth a thread of its own being a 4.2TDI V8 that makes the work I've done on the Clio look easy...
Well there's a blast from the past. I've been lurking on the forum for years, never expected CL10 FTW to appear! So glad to see this is still around. I'm the original owner, spec'd and delivered back in 2010 and sold on after 3 very happy years and 40,000miles. Still miss it to this day!
Loving what you're doing to it and that it's being used properly. I regularly check to see if it's still registered!
Loving what you're doing to it and that it's being used properly. I regularly check to see if it's still registered!
Edited by Marshall878 on Saturday 12th October 14:52
Marshall878 said:
Well there's a blast from the past. I've been lurking on the forum for years, never expected CL10 FTW to appear! So glad to see this is still around. I'm the original owner, spec'd and delivered back in 2010 and sold on after 3 very happy years and 40,000miles. Still miss it to this day!
Loving what you're doing to it and that it's being used properly. I regularly check to see if it's still registered!
I'm sure I saw it around or on forums back then.Loving what you're doing to it and that it's being used properly. I regularly check to see if it's still registered!
Edited by Marshall878 on Saturday 12th October 14:52
Loved the CL10 plates.
Marshall878 said:
Well there's a blast from the past. I've been lurking on the forum for years, never expected CL10 FTW to appear! So glad to see this is still around. I'm the original owner, spec'd and delivered back in 2010 and sold on after 3 very happy years and 40,000miles. Still miss it to this day!
Loving what you're doing to it and that it's being used properly. I regularly check to see if it's still registered!
Hi yeah I have seen your original thread and photo's on the 197 forum, perfect spec from new, hence why i flew half the country to buy it, I bought it from Bertie who I think bought it from you, did you put cams in it? (question on behalf of the dyno guy lol). Loving what you're doing to it and that it's being used properly. I regularly check to see if it's still registered!
Edited by Marshall878 on Saturday 12th October 14:52
I'm glad you approve, I sometimes wonder if I should have kept it stock, but I think I would have sold it, its now a forever car where its gradually been less needed for the road, its become a track toy and I really enjoy working on it., Its been extremely reliable despite the hard time, and barely above 65k miles now. Only replaced an o2 sensor, tank evap sensor, and front springs on the kw's.
Zuban said:
Hi yeah I have seen your original thread and photo's on the 197 forum, perfect spec from new, hence why i flew half the country to buy it, I bought it from Bertie who I think bought it from you, did you put cams in it? (question on behalf of the dyno guy lol).
I'm glad you approve, I sometimes wonder if I should have kept it stock, but I think I would have sold it, its now a forever car where its gradually been less needed for the road, its become a track toy and I really enjoy working on it., Its been extremely reliable despite the hard time, and barely above 65k miles now. Only replaced an o2 sensor, tank evap sensor, and front springs on the kw's.
It was the only spec to go for! Was probably a little mad spending what I did on it but it had to be liquid yellow. It had to have the cup pack. It had to have the seats and the yellow interior lol. I’d spent months researching, went to Wests in Cambridge and the salesman was extremely dismissive. I knew what I wanted and how I wanted it and he kept trying to advise against. Me and dad got straight back in the car, drove up to Kings Lynn and ordered it the same day. The months I had to wait for delivery was agonising for a 21 year old! I'm glad you approve, I sometimes wonder if I should have kept it stock, but I think I would have sold it, its now a forever car where its gradually been less needed for the road, its become a track toy and I really enjoy working on it., Its been extremely reliable despite the hard time, and barely above 65k miles now. Only replaced an o2 sensor, tank evap sensor, and front springs on the kw's.
Yea car was sold to Bertie for an amount that made me learn very quickly about depreciation
No the cams were not fitted during my ownership, just the KW V3s.
As I’ve just joined up to reply to this thread I can’t post some pictures but I did multiple Eurotrips in this car and it was faultless. Furka and Stelvio pass are highlights of my ownership. Incredible car.
Glad to hear it’s been reliable for you! I had had a bit of a nightmare with Renault. Clutch master cylinder at 6k, gearbox replaced at 13k and then steering issues which resulted in a new steering column, rack and hubs eventually!
Where abouts in Scotland are you? My wife is Glaswegian.
Edited by Marshall878 on Sunday 13th October 14:12
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