1979 Fiat 124 Spider

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CharlesdeGaulle

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187 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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On a bit of a whim I recently bought this little Fiat. I was vaguely looking for something LHD but it was something of a coincidence that I saw (and posted onto a couple of threads) a C&C ad for a 124 Spider.

Pic from the ad.


I mailed the seller with an imaginative 'is it still available'-type line to discover that it had only just gone live but that someone had already made an asking price offer to buy it unseen. The seller was uncomfortable about selling to anyone who hadn't seen it, and this chap couldn't view until the following day, so I saw my chance. A kind PH-er (tobinen) said that it wasn't too far from him and that he could go and see it that evening; result. He viewed, in pretty poor weather, and did a video walk-round for me. All looked good, everything seemed to check out, and there were no obvious worries, so I offered full asking and transferred the cash.

The speed of action had been necessary I think. The seller mentioned that they'd had 18 requests to view, including two traders, so they were beginning to think they'd under-priced it. I think they might have done, but it was to my benefit and we got there first so I was chuffed. The next challenge was to get hold of it; the car was in Hampshire and I was in Luxembourg.

Rather obviously, the situation with COVID, quarantine requirements and limited flight options to UK all conspired to complicate matters, but a number of folk kindly offered various forms of assistance. A further complication was that the car came with a large number of parts so it was much more than just the car to move. In the end I used a very helpful chap called Alex, also a PH-er although I didn't discover that until after sticking the job on Shiply and booking him, to transport the car and as many of the spares as he could load. In a separate twist, Breadvan72 is going to see if he can get hold of the remaining parts as they may be useful for his 1973 124 Sport Coupe. Long story short, the excellent Alex from Lizard Logistics delivered the car last night, plus all the spares with the exception of the 2 spare engines and axle.



This was of course the first time I'd seen it, and the fading light made it a cursory look at best.




But, so far so good.





CharlesdeGaulle

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Today I thought I'd drive it the short distance into work so I could see it in daylight. It started on the third attempt and I only stalled it 3 times. It runs a little rough but I don't know when it was last serviced or used, so it might just need a bit of a blast.

Some of the interior trim need re-fitting, notably all that around the gear-stick and transmission tunnel.

The wipers gave a laconic 'can't-really-be-bothered' sort of gentle wave to (almost) remove the morning dew and I set off. It sounds like you'd expect an Italian (almost) sports car to sound and it burbled and farted its way in. The plastic rear window is opaque and impossible to see through, and the mirrors offer little in the way of practical rear view so I drove in my own little private bubble, oblivious (almost) to everything around me.

I parked-up at work in a 'Classics Dwarfed by Moderns' sort-of way (that's a Polo, not a Golf).



It got some favourable comments straight away, despite the strange sort-of hot/burning/vaguely frightening smell that I am sure wafted around me but, at last, the buttock-clenching first drive was completed without mishap.



CharlesdeGaulle

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Fancy wheels in reasonable condition. Pirelli P2000 tyres; I've not yet plucked-up the courage to see how old they are.


CharlesdeGaulle

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I really am going to have to change the awful number plates, but the rear is a smaller size. Anyone know where I can get traditional UK plates in bespoke sizes?


Edited by CharlesdeGaulle on Thursday 27th August 14:59

carinaman

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179 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Are those the same door handles as on the Alfa Spider?

I liked the door handles on the Mk1 MX-5.

CharlesdeGaulle

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I'm going to have a play with it over the weekend to try and see what's what, but have already booked it in for a service and appraisal at my favoured Italian garage in the City in early-Sep.

CharlesdeGaulle

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carinaman said:
Are those the same door handles as on the Alfa Spider?

I liked the door handles on the Mk1 MX-5.
I'm not sure, but they are similar to my old Mk1 MX5. I have a spare set that has slightly less-pitted chrome amongst the parts that came with it. I really like them.

carinaman

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179 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Nice colour and no diagonal badge across the fuel filler flap.

Krikkit

26,998 posts

188 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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For custom plates have a nosey about in this thread: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

If not a standard width I'm sure you can get one made up by the JDM Plates fella in there no bother at all.

If it's a bit whiffy when hot then I'd have a good old nose around in the engine bay and see if there's any serious leaks - the last thing you'd want is an oil fire in warm weather before it's had professional attention. That said, old cars always give off some good smells biggrin


All that guff apart, what a lovely thing, I'm not afraid to say I'm rather jealous! I'd love to see some more pictures when you get them, including engine.

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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That's very nice, and I think you're right about it being underpriced. Did it run any better for being used a bit?

paulyv

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130 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Che bella macchina, uomo fortunato.

You seem fully committed to cars for which one has to make a concerted effort with one's appearance prior to getting in and driving around the locality. There's no hiding in either of the vehicles you write about on here. Go and get a haircut and some vintage sunglasses.

I've yet to own an Italian car so will be following with interest CdG. My Dad did buy a Fiat Regata 85S from new however, so I get the gist.

CharlesdeGaulle

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Too early to tell about smells and running yet really as the drive is too short to be meaningful. I'll give it a better going over at the weekend.

As for engine shots, I haven't even lifted the bonnet yet!

P5BNij

15,875 posts

113 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Great purchase CdG, glad to see it has its own thread. Framptons also do smaller plates for classics, as do The Number Plate Centre based in Brum.

Emeye

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230 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Awesome looking car. When I was a little I remember my gran had a yellow FIAT 124 (or maybe a 128) but I was expecting a 124 to look like this one:


CharlesdeGaulle

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Emeye said:
Awesome looking car. When I was a little I remember my gran had a yellow FIAT 124 (or maybe a 128) but I was expecting a 124 to look like this one:

That's Breadvan72's version smile

John Locke

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59 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Emeye said:
Awesome looking car. When I was a little I remember my gran had a yellow FIAT 124 (or maybe a 128) but I was expecting a 124 to look like this one:

A friend used one of these as a minicab in the early 1970s; it coped surprisingly well.

CharlesdeGaulle

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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John Locke said:
Emeye said:
Awesome looking car. When I was a little I remember my gran had a yellow FIAT 124 (or maybe a 128) but I was expecting a 124 to look like this one:

A friend used one of these as a minicab in the early 1970s; it coped surprisingly well.
Didn't they end up being made by Lada? I was in Azerbaijan earlier this year and the taxis across the countryside to the mud volcano were all the Lada versions of these. Cheap, indestructible and go-anywhere.

Weas

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56 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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So happy this car has it's own thread. I will lurk with great interest!

John Locke

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59 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
John Locke said:
Emeye said:
Awesome looking car. When I was a little I remember my gran had a yellow FIAT 124 (or maybe a 128) but I was expecting a 124 to look like this one:

A friend used one of these as a minicab in the early 1970s; it coped surprisingly well.
Didn't they end up being made by Lada? I was in Azerbaijan earlier this year and the taxis across the countryside to the mud volcano were all the Lada versions of these. Cheap, indestructible and go-anywhere.
Indeed they did, although they had a Russian designed SOHC engine in place of the Fiat DOHC one. There are still thousands of them running around in Central and Eastern Europe.

Weas

91 posts

56 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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John Locke said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
John Locke said:
Emeye said:
Awesome looking car. When I was a little I remember my gran had a yellow FIAT 124 (or maybe a 128) but I was expecting a 124 to look like this one:

A friend used one of these as a minicab in the early 1970s; it coped surprisingly well.
Didn't they end up being made by Lada? I was in Azerbaijan earlier this year and the taxis across the countryside to the mud volcano were all the Lada versions of these. Cheap, indestructible and go-anywhere.
Indeed they did, although they had a Russian designed SOHC engine in place of the Fiat DOHC one. There are still thousands of them running around in Central and Eastern Europe.
This was my first car, although mine was badged FSO (or I think we called them Fiat Polski, I hope that doesn't turn out to be offensive!) Mine was bright Orange and indestructible. No street cred for an 18 year old though...