A reluctant Audi A6 Avant purchase, and a BMW saga.
A reluctant Audi A6 Avant purchase, and a BMW saga.
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D4MJT

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1,307 posts

186 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Evening fellow PH'ers. All was ticking along very nicely in the world of D4MJT recently, I have an M140i which I love and Mrs D4MJT had a Mini Cooper, which she also loved.

Then my latest modification to the M140i required a rejig of the fleet:



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For reference, you can put an isofix seat base and a baby seat in a 3 door M140i, but only if your front passenger is under 5ft 3" and doesn't mind having their seat slid forward into the dash. Handily Mrs D4MJT is 5ft 2", however we have 2 dogs and now a pram, so this made things a bit trickier. We couldn't fit a baby seat in the Mini at all hilariously, as the 2 rear seats are quite sculpted and deep at an angle so the base sits oddly and has no rear ISOFIX, and you can't turn the front airbags off, so handily it made perfect sense to sell the Mini.

The hunt was on for a daily family weapon and dog chariot deluxe. Mrs D4MJT's criteria was simple. She wanted to easily be able to carry a baby, isofix base and seat, pram and associated bag and gubbins, luggage for a family to go away camping, 2 dogs, any family shopping required, and retain the exterior proportions of a 3 door Mini Cooper as she hates big cars.

We compromised through the medium of me plying her with copious amounts of wine post 9 months of abstinence whilst shopping online for a nice BMW 5 Touring.

I'm a fussy sod, so I had a fairly strict criteria myself. I had a budget in mind, and I wanted an M Sport LCI (facelift) car, so 07/57 onwards, ideally with cruise / pan roof / electric heated seats and decent audio. I also ideally wanted a 530d and pan roof, but would have settled for a 520d.

I'd have loved a 535d, however my budget was bottom end of the decent 535d market and talking a risk on a cheap one seemed like a world of pain. It honestly couldn't have been much worse after this saga laugh

I don't mind travelling for the right car and spec, and before long I found a nice 520d Touring, elec heated seats, good history, black leather, nav, LCI and heated seats. Sadly I was north of Newcastle, and it was in London. The dealer was good though, sent me photo's, and I booked myself a train ticket and set off. The test drive went well, the car was lovely. I paid in full.



Sadly, as I literally drove off the dealership forecourt, it suffered total brake failure, with the pedal going rock solid and dropping to the floor providing no braking assistance at all. I limped it round the roundabout and returned it. In fairness to the dealership, I don't think they had any idea and they dealt with it very well. He provided a full refund for the car, paid for my rail ticket down to London and back up, and paid for a taxi back to the station for me.

Never to be put off, I kept an eye on my various alerts and watches, and a week later a lovely 530d popped up for sale. Electric Heated Leather, pro nav, 6 disc CD, LCI, adaptive xenons and cruise. Ideal. It was reasonable mileage as well at 127k. The snag was it was in Bournemouth. As luck would have it, all of my pals were tied up, so my long suffering wife decided it would be an excellent idea if we had a debut family trip.

So the wife and I, our 3 week old daughter and 2 dogs piled into the 140 and set off on the 6 hour drive to Bournemouth. Which after feeding / dog convenience / driver sleep stops, only took a mere 12.5 hours. A lot was learned on this trip.



At least the car was brilliant though. Drove wonderfully on the test drive, history was good, and the dealer was again great. I paid for the car and we set off for the dog friendly B&B we had booked in nearby Somerset, 49 miles away.

All was going very well, for 38 miles until the gearbox in the 530d imploded laugh



Sadly it was very terminal, and it resulted in a total loss of drive, remedied only by a 5 minute stop at the roadside before restarting, and then gingerly driving another 7-8 miles at a time trying to manually shift it into 3rd and keep it there. Still, it limped to the B&B.









it was returned (slowly) to the dealership the next morning for another full refund and apology. They also refunded me for the tank of fuel I'd put in which was decent of them.

Now, I'm not superstitious, but I can take a hint. So I sacked off looking at E61's at this point. I wasn't able to increase to a decent F10 budget, so I decided to reduce the budget substantially instead and go back to what I know.

Enter the £2k Audi A6 Avant 1.9TDi PD130.

Now £2k is pretty steep for a 17 year old A6, however this car has been maintained very well by a colossal Audi geek. It's got 150k on the clock which is pretty low for both the year and drivetrain, it's a 6 speed manual, and it's a nice spec with some decent mods. It's a factory Sport model with a bit less chrome trim, factory Bose and rear window pull up blinds and it's had a full heated Recaro leather interior from an Allroad / RS6 of some description fitted, along with a slightly more modern touch screen JVC double din that does bluetooth and streaming audio etc. It's got a dog guard for the dogs, a cavernous boot, it returns 650 miles to a tank of diesel, and so far I've put 2000 miles on it and nothing has exploded or fell off.

The pics are from the seller or mine and appalling, so apologies.







It's a bit old school, but it gets along fine for what it is, the steering is nice, the suspension is showing no signs of needing attention yet which is good as I'm fully aware how horrendous a job that is, the dash has actual dials which tell you useful things, like oil temperature and coolant temperature. The BOSE is pretty good for the age, and the ride is nice.

If you got this far congratulations. It's in need of a driveshaft and some wipers and probably a service, so that's next on the list shortly. I'm quite looking forward to having a tinker, as it's been a while.

Edited by D4MJT on Wednesday 31st July 23:24

viciousj377o

51 posts

111 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Nice! Just done a sort of similar thing myself. Ended up with a 2004 passat pd130 on a colossal 76k miles (it really is the nicest passat around in my opinion for its age)

With a mighty 2660 mile road trip looming, I couldn't think of a single car I would trust more than one equipped with a pd130 engine! Enjoy!

Scottchester

1,665 posts

89 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Sounds like you bought 2 wrong cars from 2 right dealers, they both handled the situations well.
Nice Audi, always liked this and looked a few years back when I got my 320d but couldn't find one is good enough condition, yours looks great.
Loving the badge on the 140 btw

drewwa

395 posts

175 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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130 PD TDI is a great engine. Straightforward remap for an easy 180 bhp too if you fancy it. smile

You can manage 800 miles on a tank if you drive like Aunt Sally.

Cheers,

Drew.

Mammasaid

5,485 posts

125 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Great purchase, all I'd say is to make sure your plenum chamber is kept clean!

You will be looking at the front suspension at some time, and as long as you can get the top pinch bolt out, it's not too bad.


Jimmy No Hands

5,095 posts

184 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Ah, a freshly run in 130. Keep the oil changes regular and you'll be grand. I've piling the miles on a B5 PD115 at the minute and its still new at 136k. ;-)

torx_whisperer

113 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Cant believe how much you seem to have taken the BMW ordeals in your stride! Well done OP.

I think you were very lucky as much as you were unlucky to have had such sympathetic dealers.

Audi looks great - bookmarked for updates always loved the look of them. Happy motoring!

toon10

7,125 posts

185 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Glad you got sorted in the end mate. I'm lucky that Mrs Toon loves a big car so we have an XC90 for the family stuff. I've still for the child seat in my 3 door but he's 3 now and forward facing so not such a big deal. I wouldn't care, my uncle has just sold his A6 estate, same shape as that. He's in his 70's so its had a good life! A little bit more local to you too ;-)

carinaman

25,077 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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I really like the styling of those C5 Avants. It looks pretty good to my eyes.

tvrfan007

413 posts

202 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Unlucky with the E61s. my workmates have a 520d, 530d and a 535d E61 and all have been lucky really with their overall reliability (535d having some random issues with pas aside).

I presume you had an R53 mini? After producing Mk1 the wife refused to get rid of her R56 (takes the baby seat fine via isofix base) but is slowly realising that as Mk2 is due shortly that 2x kids, 2x car seats + 2 x transportation devices for mk1 and mk2 does not fit in a mini...

She however is very fussy, it has to be another Mini. laugh

G111MDS

383 posts

119 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Nice choice - had one previous for our family bus and it was a great car.

Maty

1,234 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Love the 118d badge on the 140!!

Cant believe how Unlucky you were, kudos to both dealers though for handling it properly.

EarlofDrift

4,717 posts

136 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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At least he dealership refunded you instead of dragging it out and stringing you along with a steaming pile of excuses.

In saying that I find it hard to believe the gearbox issue just miraculously appeared within 50 miles of you driving the car away.

Court_S

14,660 posts

205 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Sheesh, that’s some bad luck with E61’s! At least both dealers sorted you out although my sense of humour may have failed after a 12 hour drive to collect a pup!

stevemcs

10,221 posts

121 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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The good old 1.9, utterly dependable, its a good job you didn't buy a 2.0 or you may have had worse issues than the E61's

D4MJT

Original Poster:

1,307 posts

186 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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stevemcs said:
The good old 1.9, utterly dependable, its a good job you didn't buy a 2.0 or you may have had worse issues than the E61's
I very deliberately didn’t for that very reason laugh

Anything at all VAG with the CR 2.0 was firmly off my list laugh

Blanco92

206 posts

99 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Looks to be in very good condition and a good spec for its age too. Someone has clearly taken care of it, with the Recaro upgrade and some other little details I can spot but won’t bore everyone with.

I’ve got one, a 5 speed saloon on a 53, and about to hit 165k. It’s looks a bit shabbier than the photo (below) these days, as the two (original) front wings are corroding from inside out unfortunately. Still soldiers on like a good barge does though.


D4MJT

Original Poster:

1,307 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Holy 3 year update batman.

I've still got this. It's still predictably reliable and doing a perfectly good job. It's just about to tick over to 180k, and it needs a clutch, so that's tomorrow night / saturday's job.

As someone else previously predicted wisely, I did end up doing the front suspension, it was horrendous. The pinch bolts did not come out.

It has all new suspension now though and drives like a dream still.

Top barging all in all. I'll get some pictures of the misery that will undoubtedly ensue during the clutch change.

okenemem

1,482 posts

222 months

Friday 19th August 2022
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really nice dealerships ,

bobski1

2,057 posts

132 months

Friday 19th August 2022
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do love a good PD130, mine was 262k with 10k service it kept on going. It's still around somewhere too which shows how good they are