540HP NA 7L V12 3 seater
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Yes that's the one, and also why I don't do real time build threads anymore, The readers get frustrated when there is no real progress or updates, which is understandable. For mine I take regular pics and plan to do retrospective build thread instead once they are complete
I stopped posting on fchat some time back now.
I stopped posting on fchat some time back now.
PAUL.S. said:
Yes that's the one, and also why I don't do real time build threads anymore, The readers get frustrated when there is no real progress or updates, which is understandable. For mine I take regular pics and plan to do retrospective build thread instead once they are complete
I see the wisdom in your process, and fully respect that. I find a build log is really useful for a number of reasons;- getting input from others, be they experienced builders or not - comments on this thread have been extremely helpful/supportive/encouraging and I appreciate them enormously
- record of goals, ideas and processes - over long periods of time it is easy to loose track/forget the how and why
- it's motivating to post - the lack of physical progress can be highly frustrating for builder and reader alike, but the reality of projects like these is, unless it is your fulltime job, progress is choked by balancing with other aspects of your life. Each small step is still a step in the right direction
- when I started I found very few completed "from scratch" build logs for amateur's to learn from, so hoping at completion this thread will have provided some entertainment, some reliable information and maybe some good "learn from my mistake" moments!
It was this very thread and your journey thus far that got me even thinking about building a 3 seat F1 LM recreation, initially it was going to be based around a V10 BMW engine and then I started looking for suitable donor chassis. I soon realised it was going to be quite a slog to replicate the body to a level I would be happy with, and the V10 engine itself is fraught with known issues, I already had a decent F136 Maserati/Ferrari engine here, so that became the lump I would use instead, probably turbocharged, then I found a Lotus Evora bare chassis and I was off and running.
I already have the long term F40 LM project on the go as Dom mentioned, and as I started to work out how to get the correct dimensions for the F1 using the Lotus I realised I would have to compromise quite a few things so decided the alternative path of a bespoke look instead, then I saw pics of the Mazda Furai and that became the inspiration for the design ideas now, that way I do not have to stress over getting all the specific details of the F1 LM right for my build. It was the 3 seat layout that I really wanted, and now with the T50 out there, as well as the Mclaren Speedtail and the Glickenhaus there are plenty of design elements I can utilise.
I am amazed no one else has taken up the challenge of a properly engineered F1 recreation in the last 30 years, the only ones I have seen are squint at 30 foot and don't even dare look whats under the skin lookalikes, your car is going to be amazing when finished, although I shy away from live build threads of my own now, I love reading those of others so please keep up the great work.
My Sunday evening is spent updating You Tube around 7pm ready for the Retro Power weekly vid to drop.
Anyway I will stop diverting this thread now and allow it to get back on track, but happy to answer questions by PM on my own builds.
I already have the long term F40 LM project on the go as Dom mentioned, and as I started to work out how to get the correct dimensions for the F1 using the Lotus I realised I would have to compromise quite a few things so decided the alternative path of a bespoke look instead, then I saw pics of the Mazda Furai and that became the inspiration for the design ideas now, that way I do not have to stress over getting all the specific details of the F1 LM right for my build. It was the 3 seat layout that I really wanted, and now with the T50 out there, as well as the Mclaren Speedtail and the Glickenhaus there are plenty of design elements I can utilise.
I am amazed no one else has taken up the challenge of a properly engineered F1 recreation in the last 30 years, the only ones I have seen are squint at 30 foot and don't even dare look whats under the skin lookalikes, your car is going to be amazing when finished, although I shy away from live build threads of my own now, I love reading those of others so please keep up the great work.
My Sunday evening is spent updating You Tube around 7pm ready for the Retro Power weekly vid to drop.
Anyway I will stop diverting this thread now and allow it to get back on track, but happy to answer questions by PM on my own builds.
Edited by PAUL.S. on Saturday 8th June 13:35
The interior "liner" is formed by 3 separate sections bonded insitu. The center section is made by creating "joggles" at its' edges. The same tool is used to make all three parts, so to create a flush lap joint at the edges the center section has to step up (or down depending on your viewpoint!) using "joggles". In the photo below the tool has a 1/8 scale 3D print of the center section sitting atop. The joggle is formed by a self adhesive backed neoprene foam strip. Gives a nice consistant edges and thickness with which to build up against during the layup. Lots of waxing then PVA spray. Setting up the cabin ergonomics on the build table requires the center section to be made, bulkhead tubing to be in place, a mockup of the powerplant position using the 2 engines and the transaxle held in the correct orientation by a mock up Tbox assembly. The gear shifting mechanism determines the size of the service tube that goes through the fuel tank, so the tank can only be built once the gear shift is tested out in full scale.
![](https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/585499/202406303661224?resize=720)
Have built a full scale windscreen "former" from 316L castings made from 3D prints. The test mule will be using a polycarbonate screen, so the frame will help with holding the edges to the correct shape during the thermoforming process. It is also extremely useful once covered on the appropriate faces with polypropylene strip (the same thickness as the windscreen) as a plug for creating the matching windscreen recess in the roof moulding. Thus when a glass windscreen is available it should fit too.
![](https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/585499/2024063036633?resize=720)
Have built a full scale windscreen "former" from 316L castings made from 3D prints. The test mule will be using a polycarbonate screen, so the frame will help with holding the edges to the correct shape during the thermoforming process. It is also extremely useful once covered on the appropriate faces with polypropylene strip (the same thickness as the windscreen) as a plug for creating the matching windscreen recess in the roof moulding. Thus when a glass windscreen is available it should fit too.
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