Discussion
bolidemichael said:
Too big and a fair chunk heavier still. The fact the saloons are slower round a track than the M3 despite having another 90-100bhp tells you it won't handle as well. I'm not one to judge purely on lap times but to have 25% more power and still be slower tells me something... Gallons Per Mile said:
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.
I guess so, because both cars will do well over 300 miles per tank and the 330i will reach mid to high 30’s on a run.Court_S said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.
I guess so, because both cars will do well over 300 miles per tank and the 330i will reach mid to high 30’s on a run.T0M said:
Car looks mega. I think the E90 is a great looking car and already commands a fair bit of a premium over the E92 by the looks of it. Am very tempted by one myself after having an E92 M3 a few years ago. The sound track is worth the fuel bills.
Yeah they do seem a bit more expensive, but they're also a heck of a lot rarer. There are 9-10x more coupes than saloons.Gallons Per Mile said:
Court_S said:
my N52 powered cars are only 6 or 7 mpg better.
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
Mr Tidy said:
That's about the same difference between my 330i and Z4M too. But it does add up, especially for a Scottish trip as I live in Surrey!
At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
The E90 wasn't great for fuel tank size. It was one of the niggles I had with it. A slightly bigger tank would've given a nice useable 350 mile range, but instead it was well under 300 miles if driven as intended. If I drove very conservatively then 300 was possible but you just can't with that induction noise!At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
Mr Tidy said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
Court_S said:
my N52 powered cars are only 6 or 7 mpg better.
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
Gallons Per Mile said:
You'll drive it like it's supposed to be driven though. My long term average was a smidge over 20 so plan for that if you want one. Around town is ruinous but it sounds immense! You're looking at numbers starting with a 1 then. Very fun but you'll be spending money on petrol!
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E90_M3Ross said:
Mr Tidy said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
Court_S said:
my N52 powered cars are only 6 or 7 mpg better.
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
bolidemichael said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Mr Tidy said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
Court_S said:
my N52 powered cars are only 6 or 7 mpg better.
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
I'll get some jerry cans for the next trip 
E90_M3Ross said:
bolidemichael said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Mr Tidy said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
Court_S said:
my N52 powered cars are only 6 or 7 mpg better.
If you think of it in terms of the percentage gain in fuel economy it's quite a lot! My M54 powered E46 is around 50% better on fuel compared to the S65 which means for every tank I use in that car I'd have had to use 1.5 tanks in the M3. It really adds up, even with smaller percentages.At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
I'll get some jerry cans for the next trip I have been known to carry 30L
bolidemichael said:
Which pouring spout do you prefer? Gallons Per Mile said:
Mr Tidy said:
That's about the same difference between my 330i and Z4M too. But it does add up, especially for a Scottish trip as I live in Surrey!
At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
The E90 wasn't great for fuel tank size. It was one of the niggles I had with it. A slightly bigger tank would've given a nice useable 350 mile range, but instead it was well under 300 miles if driven as intended. If I drove very conservatively then 300 was possible but you just can't with that induction noise!At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
Mr Tidy said:
Tell me about it! I've never managed anywhere near 300 miles with the 55 litre tank in my Z4M.
The 370Z isn't too bad regarding that, and it has a 72 litre tank. I think the M4 only has a 60 litre tank, but that does at least show over 400 miles on the range when you fill it though. Mr Tidy said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
Mr Tidy said:
That's about the same difference between my 330i and Z4M too. But it does add up, especially for a Scottish trip as I live in Surrey!
At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
The E90 wasn't great for fuel tank size. It was one of the niggles I had with it. A slightly bigger tank would've given a nice useable 350 mile range, but instead it was well under 300 miles if driven as intended. If I drove very conservatively then 300 was possible but you just can't with that induction noise!At least the M3 has a 3 Series size fuel tank - my Z4 only holds 55 litres.
I'm seeing/treating an employee of the garage who do a fair bit of the work on my car next Tuesday. They're dropping off a courtesy car for me and they're going to do an engine oil and filter change, whilst there I'm going to get a new oil level sensor fitted (readings can occasionally be up/down, so more out of precaution), microfilters, brake fluid and another 4 wheel alignment.
Engine oil I'm going with Millers CFS NT+ 10W-60 - it's a better oil than Castrol Edge. Brake fluid will be Motul RBF 660.
I'm heading near the garage Saturday so I'll collect it on the 29th as I drop the courtesy car back. In theory, that should be it until MOT in January. I'll probably give it another coolant change, new air filter and I may get the auxiliary belt/pulley replaced too, again, as preventative maintenance.
E90_M3Ross said:
Yeah that's not great.
I'm seeing/treating an employee of the garage who do a fair bit of the work on my car next Tuesday. They're dropping off a courtesy car for me and they're going to do an engine oil and filter change, whilst there I'm going to get a new oil level sensor fitted (readings can occasionally be up/down, so more out of precaution), microfilters, brake fluid and another 4 wheel alignment.
Engine oil I'm going with Millers CFS NT+ 10W-60 - it's a better oil than Castrol Edge. Brake fluid will be Motul RBF 660.
I'm heading near the garage Saturday so I'll collect it on the 29th as I drop the courtesy car back. In theory, that should be it until MOT in January. I'll probably give it another coolant change, new air filter and I may get the auxiliary belt/pulley replaced too, again, as preventative maintenance.
I hope that all goes well. I'm seeing/treating an employee of the garage who do a fair bit of the work on my car next Tuesday. They're dropping off a courtesy car for me and they're going to do an engine oil and filter change, whilst there I'm going to get a new oil level sensor fitted (readings can occasionally be up/down, so more out of precaution), microfilters, brake fluid and another 4 wheel alignment.
Engine oil I'm going with Millers CFS NT+ 10W-60 - it's a better oil than Castrol Edge. Brake fluid will be Motul RBF 660.
I'm heading near the garage Saturday so I'll collect it on the 29th as I drop the courtesy car back. In theory, that should be it until MOT in January. I'll probably give it another coolant change, new air filter and I may get the auxiliary belt/pulley replaced too, again, as preventative maintenance.
My credit card is already trembling as mine is booked for an Inspection 1 and some work on the brakes including front calipers and pads, rear pads and anything else my Indy finds.
But it will be getting Castrol Edge 10W/60 as I've already got that, although I'd love to know what is different about the Millers alternative.
I spoke to Opie Oils about it and they said it has a higher ester content, is better for cold start protection and also has higher load tolerance than Edge. Edge is a good oil but there are better, some of which are, however, very expensive! I can't remember exactly but if you're interested ping Opie Oils a message and ask them, they're very helpful.
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