Central lane and turn right
Discussion
I’ve been driving for 20 old year and one of things that seams to have changed that I don’t know why (whether it’s been a change in advance from driving instructors) but when turning right and there is a centre lane to pull into to keep the flow of traffic most driver don’t fully pull into the lane. Instead they still stay left (straddling the both the central and forward flowing lane). Is it more than just annoying as a few times where there is plenty of room for them to be in the central lane and they do this unexpectedly I’ve almost gone into the back of them. It can’t be a safety reasons as they tend to have there steering wheel at an angle (if they were rear ended they wouldn’t be just pushed forward but pushed forward/right into the on coming traffic).
Riley Blue said:
I think you mean a right filter lane.
I can't say I've ever noticed one being half-used in the way you describe, perhaps some drivers are hesitant about putting their vehicle into what they perceive as a risky head-on position before turning right?
Yes, a right filter lane. More present when people ace to change out their lane than if the current lane divides upI can't say I've ever noticed one being half-used in the way you describe, perhaps some drivers are hesitant about putting their vehicle into what they perceive as a risky head-on position before turning right?
Pica-Pica said:
Is there a question here, OP?
I can’t say I encounter it. You seem to say that you know the wheels are at an angle, so that is a clue, is it not? Just give them space. I’m sure not everyone does it, and how do you propose to ‘re-educate’ the ones who do? Move on.
I can’t say I encounter it. You seem to say that you know the wheels are at an angle, so that is a clue, is it not? Just give them space. I’m sure not everyone does it, and how do you propose to ‘re-educate’ the ones who do? Move on.
The picture is from a road/junction it happens most days for me. Rather than being fully in the centre (red) where there is space I get it regularly where both lanes (red and green) are straddled. The question is, has there been a change in driving reconditions, or is it just bad driving (maybe due to larger cats with less visibility looking out and behind)? I can see the wheels aren’t straight because the car isn’t straight. A good bit of horn is would be my way of “education “ but i’m not sure that’s the best way…
I see it constantly and have assumed that it's a combination of laziness and lack of consideration for following drivers who then have to stop to wait for the right-turning car to clear the driving lane, while the road was designed to give space for cars to turn right without impeding the flow of traffic. Why is it happening now more than before?
One possibility is that our society has become noticeably more self-centred and entitled. We as a whole don't care about inconveniencing our fellow drivers. We only care about ourselves. You can see this in so many aspects of driving today. Driving by definition involves sharing road space that doesn't belong to us. Couple that with overcrowding of the roads - there is now much more traffic to contend with now than there was when I started driving more than 30 years ago, and getting anywhere takes longer and the journey is more frustrating and less enjoyable.
One possibility is that our society has become noticeably more self-centred and entitled. We as a whole don't care about inconveniencing our fellow drivers. We only care about ourselves. You can see this in so many aspects of driving today. Driving by definition involves sharing road space that doesn't belong to us. Couple that with overcrowding of the roads - there is now much more traffic to contend with now than there was when I started driving more than 30 years ago, and getting anywhere takes longer and the journey is more frustrating and less enjoyable.
mattvanders said:
Pica-Pica said:
Is there a question here, OP?
I can’t say I encounter it. You seem to say that you know the wheels are at an angle, so that is a clue, is it not? Just give them space. I’m sure not everyone does it, and how do you propose to ‘re-educate’ the ones who do? Move on.
I can’t say I encounter it. You seem to say that you know the wheels are at an angle, so that is a clue, is it not? Just give them space. I’m sure not everyone does it, and how do you propose to ‘re-educate’ the ones who do? Move on.
The picture is from a road/junction it happens most days for me. Rather than being fully in the centre (red) where there is space I get it regularly where both lanes (red and green) are straddled. The question is, has there been a change in driving reconditions, or is it just bad driving (maybe due to larger cats with less visibility looking out and behind)? I can see the wheels aren’t straight because the car isn’t straight. A good bit of horn is would be my way of “education “ but i’m not sure that’s the best way…
PS. Title is a misleading description.
Pica-Pica said:
mattvanders said:
Pica-Pica said:
Is there a question here, OP?
I can’t say I encounter it. You seem to say that you know the wheels are at an angle, so that is a clue, is it not? Just give them space. I’m sure not everyone does it, and how do you propose to ‘re-educate’ the ones who do? Move on.
I can’t say I encounter it. You seem to say that you know the wheels are at an angle, so that is a clue, is it not? Just give them space. I’m sure not everyone does it, and how do you propose to ‘re-educate’ the ones who do? Move on.
The picture is from a road/junction it happens most days for me. Rather than being fully in the centre (red) where there is space I get it regularly where both lanes (red and green) are straddled. The question is, has there been a change in driving reconditions, or is it just bad driving (maybe due to larger cats with less visibility looking out and behind)? I can see the wheels aren’t straight because the car isn’t straight. A good bit of horn is would be my way of “education “ but i’m not sure that’s the best way…
PS. Title is a misleading description.
There'a main road near us where the whole centre of the road between the travel lanes in each direction is striped off but the separation isn't much more than a car's width. It has occasional filter lanes and you do get some overhanging on the nearside, I guess as drivers don't want to get too close to larger vehicles coming towards them.
You often get narrow hatching which you can tuck into to turn right, normally leaving enough room for cars to pass. Quite often though drivers will stop in the forward lane outside the gap in hatching between the lines that you can pull into.
In this example in Milton Keynes the lining is absent so that it’s obvious that you can pull towards the middle.
In this example in Milton Keynes the lining is absent so that it’s obvious that you can pull towards the middle.
Riley Blue said:
I think you mean a right filter lane.
I can't say I've ever noticed one being half-used in the way you describe, perhaps some drivers are hesitant about putting their vehicle into what they perceive as a risky head-on position before turning right?
I see it all the time. People just can't drive. I can't say I've ever noticed one being half-used in the way you describe, perhaps some drivers are hesitant about putting their vehicle into what they perceive as a risky head-on position before turning right?
Glenn63 said:
Because the amount of incompetent, clueless, daydreaming terrible drivers is at an all time high.
I'd put the problem down to two things, the production line system of teaching folks ,not to drive, but to learn how to pass the test/ Poorly qualified production line instructors. How often do you see a car ,at a junction, pulling over to the right/straddling the right white line and leaving space for the left turner? For most of us on here, I'd suspect that our instructors would be quick to point out that we were too far left to allow a vehicle behind not to get held up. 
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