TFL Westminster 20 & A40 30mph
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Looks like TFL are trying to bring more 20mph misery to London with the ring road in Westminster planning to be cut, along with a number of roads in the proposal under TfL control. Likewise the Westminster section of the A40 from Westbourne Park to Marylebone will remain 30mph *permanently*.
Is it just me but in particular the A40 cut is very harsh. I still think the cut to 40mph was bad enough !!
I wonder what speeds you can get away with - I stick to 32/33mph on the Westway?
For those interested the consultation closes on Wednesday 18th! https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/lowering-speeds-wes...
Is it just me but in particular the A40 cut is very harsh. I still think the cut to 40mph was bad enough !!
I wonder what speeds you can get away with - I stick to 32/33mph on the Westway?
For those interested the consultation closes on Wednesday 18th! https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/lowering-speeds-wes...
30mph on the A40 Westway - a dual 3-lane ex-motorway with hard shoulder along much of its length - is indescribably barmy. Pedestrians and cyclists are banned. There is no buildings/premises frontage as it's 50 feet in the air on stilts.
If it weren't for the average speed cameras, you'd worry about being rear-ended for complying.
If it weren't for the average speed cameras, you'd worry about being rear-ended for complying.
apany50 said:
Looks like TFL are trying to bring more 20mph misery......
Further to this TFL have yet another consultation on more 20mph limits across outer London 
( https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/lowering-speed-limi...
I used to like visiting London once a week in the 80s and 90s.
I have been there twice in the last 5 years, once for a christening and once for a food fair.
It's just not worth the hassle now.
Before that I led 70 TVRs on an early Sunday morning run around the tunnels, bridges and sights of London in 2013/2014, but that run is long defunct thanks to restrictions.
Surely those who live in central London do so because they actually like exhaust fumes, noise, dirt, restrictions, high costs and traffic?
I have been there twice in the last 5 years, once for a christening and once for a food fair.
It's just not worth the hassle now.
Before that I led 70 TVRs on an early Sunday morning run around the tunnels, bridges and sights of London in 2013/2014, but that run is long defunct thanks to restrictions.
Surely those who live in central London do so because they actually like exhaust fumes, noise, dirt, restrictions, high costs and traffic?
You would be wasting your time responding to any of these consultations, even on an organised basis. If anybody is able to get organised you would be better off appointing a good legal team and crowd funding a judicial review of TFL and London boroughs' 20 mph schemes. I'd be confident of winning, as from what I can see not many of them meet the requirements for setting local speed limits as set out in the DfT document in 2013 when these decisions were devolved to local authorities. But you would have to have the energy and resources to withstand the full frontal onslaught of wokery from Brake, 20s Plenty etc, which would be all-consuming.
The reality is that all of these schemes will go through, encouraged by those that champion them thinking 'I don't drive, it doesn't affect me'. I can't see any end to this trend until the majority of people start to realise that actually it does affect them and start making a lot of noise about it. At present, there's probably 10% opposed, 10% noisily in favour and 80% 'Meh'. The smarter move is probably to hasten the day when your local town becomes perpetually gridlocked, in the hope more of the 'mehs' become sufficiently inconvenienced to start making more noise.
The reality is that all of these schemes will go through, encouraged by those that champion them thinking 'I don't drive, it doesn't affect me'. I can't see any end to this trend until the majority of people start to realise that actually it does affect them and start making a lot of noise about it. At present, there's probably 10% opposed, 10% noisily in favour and 80% 'Meh'. The smarter move is probably to hasten the day when your local town becomes perpetually gridlocked, in the hope more of the 'mehs' become sufficiently inconvenienced to start making more noise.
https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/30mph-spee...
The New Civil Engineer are reporting that unfortunately the Westway will remain at 30mph on a permanent basis even after the works are completed !! Will be interested to see TfL's reasons but its a complete and utter disgrace in my opinion.
The New Civil Engineer are reporting that unfortunately the Westway will remain at 30mph on a permanent basis even after the works are completed !! Will be interested to see TfL's reasons but its a complete and utter disgrace in my opinion.
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