Autobahn

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nickbie

Original Poster:

50 posts

118 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Hi
Does anyone know where on the internet I can find an up to date map of deristricted Autobahns?

Huskyman

655 posts

134 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Try google. This came up as the second result
http://autobahnspeedhunter.com/

Have you driven on the autobahn before?

TurboBlue

673 posts

170 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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slipstream 1985

12,775 posts

186 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Short of a few bursts of speed when clear most are too busy to max out or cruise at a high speed, roughly 90-100 may be possible but always limits at on off ramps

so called

9,130 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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Early Sunday mirnings are the time to see and do high speeds.
Done plenty during off peak week days but you need to pay attention to your rear view as there’s always someone faster than you.

dcb

5,911 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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slipstream 1985 said:
Short of a few bursts of speed when clear most are too busy to max out or cruise at a high speed, roughly 90-100 may be possible but always limits at on off ramps
Last point not true.

From the German traffic ministry - so probably they know best -
are that average autobahn speed is about 145 kmh and about 15% of the traffic is doing
over 170 kmh.

200 kmh perfectly ordinary speed. The German network is 3-4 times as long
as the UK network and most of it is unlimited.

Which makes for fast and effective progress.

Accident rates are similar to the European average.

More detail on http://autobahn-online.de/


Kawasicki

13,471 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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dcb said:
slipstream 1985 said:
Short of a few bursts of speed when clear most are too busy to max out or cruise at a high speed, roughly 90-100 may be possible but always limits at on off ramps
Last point not true.

From the German traffic ministry - so probably they know best -
are that average autobahn speed is about 145 kmh and about 15% of the traffic is doing
over 170 kmh.

200 kmh perfectly ordinary speed. The German network is 3-4 times as long
as the UK network and most of it is unlimited.

Which makes for fast and effective progress.

Accident rates are similar to the European average.

More detail on http://autobahn-online.de/
I bloody love the Autobahn.

slipstream 1985

12,775 posts

186 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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dcb said:
slipstream 1985 said:
Short of a few bursts of speed when clear most are too busy to max out or cruise at a high speed, roughly 90-100 may be possible but always limits at on off ramps
Last point not true.

From the German traffic ministry - so probably they know best -
are that average autobahn speed is about 145 kmh and about 15% of the traffic is doing
over 170 kmh.

200 kmh perfectly ordinary speed. The German network is 3-4 times as long
as the UK network and most of it is unlimited.

Which makes for fast and effective progress.

Accident rates are similar to the European average.

More detail on http://autobahn-online.de/
sorry i was talking mph I assume you mean kph so pretty close.

paul.deitch

2,155 posts

264 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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About 50% has some Tempolimit. It is not mostly unlimited.

dcb

5,911 posts

272 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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paul.deitch said:
About 50% has some Tempolimit. It is not mostly unlimited.
Easily disproved. Wikipedia says

A 2017 report by the Federal Road Research Institute reported that in 2015 70.4% of the autobahn network had only the advisory speed limit, 6.2% had temporary speed limits due to weather or traffic conditions, and 23.4% had permanent speed limits.

Taken from

https://www.bast.de/BASt_2017/DE/Verkehrstechnik/P...



RedWhiteMonkey

7,267 posts

189 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Kawasicki said:
I bloody love the Autobahn.
I bloody hate it. The section I have to use everyday to and from work is always full and any ideas of unlimited speed are a dream.

The autobahns in the old east are much quieter and generally better quality. I'd head over to that side if I wanted some unrestricted fun.

krobbo

85 posts

127 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Having spent 3 months to date living in Munich, I can confirm that there are a good selection of derestricted autobahns in Bavaria!

I commute a 200km round trip each day, 180km on Autobahn and 148km of which is derestricted.

Very rare IME to have limits around on/off-ramps.

As has been said, off peak times are best for speed runs, but it's still entirely possible to hit 260kph at commuting times... often in convoy.

Kawasicki

13,471 posts

242 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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krobbo said:
Having spent 3 months to date living in Munich, I can confirm that there are a good selection of derestricted autobahns in Bavaria!

I commute a 200km round trip each day, 180km on Autobahn and 148km of which is derestricted.

Very rare IME to have limits around on/off-ramps.

As has been said, off peak times are best for speed runs, but it's still entirely possible to hit 260kph at commuting times... often in convoy.
Welcome to Bavaria. I’ve lived here 5 years. And I concur... I get to set cruise to 270 km/h from time to time. Best recent Autobahn experience...overtaking the late evening high speed train heading south on the A9 from Nurnberg, tyres squealing through the corners... in a convoy!

RedWhiteMonkey

7,267 posts

189 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Kawasicki said:
Welcome to Bavaria. I’ve lived here 5 years. And I concur... I get to set cruise to 270 km/h from time to time. Best recent Autobahn experience...overtaking the late evening high speed train heading south on the A9 from Nurnberg, tyres squealing through the corners... in a convoy!
Hello, I'm over in the west in BW!

270km/h is quite some spreed, even for the Autobahn. What were you driving?

Kawasicki

13,471 posts

242 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Kawasicki said:
Welcome to Bavaria. I’ve lived here 5 years. And I concur... I get to set cruise to 270 km/h from time to time. Best recent Autobahn experience...overtaking the late evening high speed train heading south on the A9 from Nurnberg, tyres squealing through the corners... in a convoy!
Hello, I'm over in the west in BW!

270km/h is quite some spreed, even for the Autobahn. What were you driving?
Ok, sorry I got confused! Enjoy BW then, my sister lives near Heidelberg! I like BW too... but there are way more speed cameras (I’ve been caught!) and the police are not as friendly as in Bavaria.

The car was an Audi RS7. I’ve had people overtake me fairly often at 250, so 270 is a bit more chilled. I’ve had over 320 indicated speed a few times, but that is pretty rare...and it wasn’t an Audi.

AJB88

13,424 posts

178 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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When I was out there earlier in the year there was a lot of roadworks going on especially around junctions, this was the Koln>Frankfurt> Stuttgart>Austria stretches.

idealstandard

688 posts

62 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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Early sunday morning, A8 north of Munich toward Stuttgart is one of my favorite stretches. A good 30-40 miles usually of 3/4 lane wide, great visibility, empty road - just as long as you hit it early. Was doing a steady 170mph in my 456 last year or the year before out of there and got smoked by an RS6 (debadged) that flew past me.

Poppiecock

943 posts

65 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
I bloody hate it. The section I have to use everyday to and from work is always full and any ideas of unlimited speed are a dream.

The autobahns in the old east are much quieter and generally better quality. I'd head over to that side if I wanted some unrestricted fun.
Have to agree, I've done thousands of miles on Autobahns over the last 6 or so years (first trip was in an MX5 to Berlin in 2013).

Opportunities to max out a car are becoming increasingly less frequent as the infrastructure is wearing out, increasing roadworks plus increasing traffic. Elephant racing trucks are a real issue, throwing people out into lane 3 of unrestricted sections at 100km/h.

I have maxed out between Bonn and Berlin, but only for short stretches, if only because my brain struggles to cope with the demands of safely driving at speeds of 130-140mph. Notching it down to around 110mph is much more comfortable.

windymissile

276 posts

136 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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I seem to remember from my time out there, that although the road can be unristricted your insurance is not. And if you are involved in an accident that is deemed to be caused by excessive speed for the conditions, your insurance will be invalid.
I only get the car over there a few times a year now but I love seeing that sign and opening her up.
As said earlier, watch your mirrors. And never underestimate your braking distance. Touching the brakes at 200+mph will really unsettle the car. You need to factor in a good few seconds for the car to slow due to drag and settle before really pressing the brake.

windymissile

276 posts

136 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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I seem to remember from my time out there, that although the road can be unristricted your insurance is not. And if you are involved in an accident that is deemed to be caused by excessive speed for the conditions, your insurance will be invalid.
I only get the car over there a few times a year now but I love seeing that sign and opening her up.
As said earlier, watch your mirrors. And never underestimate your braking distance. Touching the brakes at 200+mph will really unsettle the car. You need to factor in a good few seconds for the car to slow due to drag and settle before really pressing the brake.