Mansell's boys
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DSM2 said:
Great Dane said:
Any news of their plans?
Who cares? I wonder if they're as good as Dad at golf? They're certainly no good at motor racing
pablo said:
DSM2 said:
Great Dane said:
Any news of their plans?
Who cares? I wonder if they're as good as Dad at golf? They're certainly no good at motor racing
Henry Fiddleton said:
Why all the snide comments?
Seriosuly, good on them for giving it a go- and being talented enough at two difficult sporting events to give it a proper "go".
HF.
The comments are quite fair and reasonable.Seriosuly, good on them for giving it a go- and being talented enough at two difficult sporting events to give it a proper "go".
HF.
Neither of them was quick enough to deserve a place in any national formula let alone F3. To boot they were rather unpleasant to work with, I am told by people who worked with them (not that it hasn't been reasonably well publicised), and it is generally accepted that they got where they did only and totally because of Daddy and his money.
I would think most youngsters would 'give it a go' with the sort of leg up they had.
I worked around British F3 in 2007, and always found them pleasant enough to speak to and be around, and still say hello on the rare occasions that I see them these days.
As far being there because of their dad, and money, what racing driver in any national series isn't there because they've got money?
As far being there because of their dad, and money, what racing driver in any national series isn't there because they've got money?
I've met them and pleasant guys they are too.
Greg, in particular, was a real star in getting my lad Nige's autograph at Le Mans during the driver's parade.
In terms of talent they did manage to have a class win in LMP1 last year, so not to shabby.
What's with the sour grapes on here? Usually from those who've not met the individuals concerned, it would appear, and not from someone who has even a modicum of their talent either.
They piss on your chips at some point?
Greg, in particular, was a real star in getting my lad Nige's autograph at Le Mans during the driver's parade.
In terms of talent they did manage to have a class win in LMP1 last year, so not to shabby.
What's with the sour grapes on here? Usually from those who've not met the individuals concerned, it would appear, and not from someone who has even a modicum of their talent either.
They piss on your chips at some point?
mike80 said:
As far being there because of their dad, and money, what racing driver in any national series isn't there because they've got money?
Ferzaktly!You can say that almost exclusively about drivers in formulae much above FF1600!
I am told that of the two brothers Greg seems to have a better grasp of it, being quicker, and more consistent, but both of them are capable.
They could go on to be golf pro's, and race for a bit of enjoyment as very capable "gentleman" drivers in the years to come. At least they saw sense to move into sportscars where ultimate speed doesn't always make you a winner, because to finish first in LMP cars, first you have to finish.
Put them in the right car, I'm sure they'll win some pots. The Zytek was the wrong car.
Not sure I agree with that about Demon Hill.
On his day, he was bang on. Like his late father he was very precise. I know someone who marshalled at a F2 race at Snetterton, and they put a half crown on the apex where Graham drove, and he was on that spot every lap, within 1/4". That's why he was Mr Monaco. Damon had similar qualities.
While he was doing all of the development driving for Williams, they were winning.
The best combination for car development at that time were Hill and Coulthard. Damon's one and only problem was that when his head was down, he went off the pace.
Given the full backing of the team DC was superb. But he didn't come from Finland!
On his day, he was bang on. Like his late father he was very precise. I know someone who marshalled at a F2 race at Snetterton, and they put a half crown on the apex where Graham drove, and he was on that spot every lap, within 1/4". That's why he was Mr Monaco. Damon had similar qualities.
While he was doing all of the development driving for Williams, they were winning.
The best combination for car development at that time were Hill and Coulthard. Damon's one and only problem was that when his head was down, he went off the pace.
Given the full backing of the team DC was superb. But he didn't come from Finland!
DSM2 said:
Henry Fiddleton said:
Why all the snide comments?
Seriosuly, good on them for giving it a go- and being talented enough at two difficult sporting events to give it a proper "go".
HF.
The comments are quite fair and reasonable.Seriosuly, good on them for giving it a go- and being talented enough at two difficult sporting events to give it a proper "go".
HF.
Neither of them was quick enough to deserve a place in any national formula let alone F3. To boot they were rather unpleasant to work with, I am told by people who worked with them (not that it hasn't been reasonably well publicised), and it is generally accepted that they got where they did only and totally because of Daddy and his money.
I would think most youngsters would 'give it a go' with the sort of leg up they had.
No a serious note, if your daddy was well off enough to offer you the chance to go racing, and your good at it, would you say no? I have met the Mansell family and I cannot believe for one minute what you are saying is true. Having spent quite a lot of time with them.
Formula1Dragon said:
DSM2 said:
Henry Fiddleton said:
Why all the snide comments?
Seriosuly, good on them for giving it a go- and being talented enough at two difficult sporting events to give it a proper "go".
HF.
The comments are quite fair and reasonable.Seriosuly, good on them for giving it a go- and being talented enough at two difficult sporting events to give it a proper "go".
HF.
Neither of them was quick enough to deserve a place in any national formula let alone F3. To boot they were rather unpleasant to work with, I am told by people who worked with them (not that it hasn't been reasonably well publicised), and it is generally accepted that they got where they did only and totally because of Daddy and his money.
I would think most youngsters would 'give it a go' with the sort of leg up they had.
No a serious note, if your daddy was well off enough to offer you the chance to go racing, and your good at it, would you say no? I have met the Mansell family and I cannot believe for one minute what you are saying is true. Having spent quite a lot of time with them.
If you had you would know about the goings on between one of the Mansell boys and a team-mate virtually forced by Nigel.
Meeting/stalking them at Goodwood does not count as spending time with them.
There seem's to be a general observation that they only got as far as they did because of who there father is , seems to me they are only being criticised because of who there father is , there are plenty of other ex racing drivers who "had a go" but failed to make it to the big time , we don't see these people subjected to the sort of criticism all the time , a bit of a "no win" for them , excuse the pun.
On another note Damon Hill was also the fastest driver through Eau Rouge when he was in a less competitive car , quite good for an also ran competing with the worlds best.
On another note Damon Hill was also the fastest driver through Eau Rouge when he was in a less competitive car , quite good for an also ran competing with the worlds best.
I must admit, the OP did set this up for some "snide" comments...and I didn't want to disappoint 
I have no doubts at all that they benefitted from their surname. And why not? You have to use whatever you can to get ahead on this game. Ultimately, though, the name only gets you so far and I think that both have already "peaked".
Perhaps their father could invest his earnings from that car insurance advert in furthering their careers for 2011? I think that they should both race in F2 next year to showcase their talent.
What's more interesting to me is which "names" really do have the talent to match their name? Let me open the batting with Tom Blomqvist and Carlos Sainz...ironically, both are achieving success on-track rather than on-stage (but I think Paul Blomqvist is more likely to follow Dad...watch this space on that...)
I have no doubts at all that they benefitted from their surname. And why not? You have to use whatever you can to get ahead on this game. Ultimately, though, the name only gets you so far and I think that both have already "peaked".
Perhaps their father could invest his earnings from that car insurance advert in furthering their careers for 2011? I think that they should both race in F2 next year to showcase their talent.
What's more interesting to me is which "names" really do have the talent to match their name? Let me open the batting with Tom Blomqvist and Carlos Sainz...ironically, both are achieving success on-track rather than on-stage (but I think Paul Blomqvist is more likely to follow Dad...watch this space on that...)
rubystone said:
I think that they should both race in F2 next year to showcase their talent.
Yeah, they might win themselves a GP2 test. 
rubystone said:
What's more interesting to me is which "names" really do have the talent to match their name? Let me open the batting with Tom Blomqvist and Carlos Sainz...ironically, both are achieving success on-track rather than on-stage (but I think Paul Blomqvist is more likely to follow Dad...watch this space on that...)
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