Button wonders if Lewis could cope in a Honda..
Button wonders if Lewis could cope in a Honda..
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wanacoop

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1,249 posts

251 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

220 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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He sounds very bitter, but there's an element of truth in that.

Can't see him challenging for title though...

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Dear Jenson, when you start consistently out-performing your team-mate you can then comment on the performance of others.

Until that day arrives, zip it.

smile

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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MonkeyHanger said:
Dear Jenson, when you start consistently out-performing your team-mate you can then comment on the performance of others.

Until that day arrives, zip it.

smile
well said....

Zhastaph

231 posts

261 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Our Jense said:
This car {the Honda} - we've tried everything. We might as well have tried to put the front wheels on the back and the back on the front.
biggrin

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

256 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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MonkeyHanger said:
Dear Jenson, when you start consistently out-performing your team-mate you can then comment on the performance of others.

Until that day arrives, zip it.

smile
+1

Tony

bullies180

1,833 posts

223 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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I hate to say it but jenson is probably suffering a little green eyed envy. jenson's first drive was in the williams which at the time wasn't a bad car, he's just been a bit unlucky that he hasn't really had a top drive since. Still i bet he's been paid very well in that time. Maybe next year he will be in a more competitive car now that brawn is on-board. I would like to see him do well and win some races.

Soovy

35,829 posts

300 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Nice enough guy. Decent driver. Very good in fact.

But out driven by Barrichello this year, so zip it, with your yacht and more snatch that a Liverpool Post Office.



Lost my mojo

205 posts

254 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Which bit sounds bitter?


Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

256 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Do you really become a better driver from having a poor car?

From his comments it sounds as though the danger is that you lose the ability to set up the car properly, become confused about the correct way to go, and suffer a lack of confidence and motivation.

micron750

845 posts

261 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Bitter that's something Jenson is not more like realistic,if he had the car that Lewis has had this year without a doubt he'd been fighting for the title.
I think you lot are missing the fact that Barrichello has had a better chance of a title and blew it.
Give Jenson the car to fight with and he will deliver!!

Soovy

35,829 posts

300 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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micron750 said:
Bitter that's something Jenson is not more like realistic,if he had the car that Lewis has had this year without a doubt he'd been fighting for the title.
I think you lot are missing the fact that Barrichello has had a better chance of a title and blew it.
Give Jenson the car to fight with and he will deliver!!
Barichello is older and got better results from the Honda.


Mardybum

3,721 posts

232 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Rubens was also unbeatable on "his day" in the Ferrari, why would that be any different for Button? Get fking Vettel in a Mclaren and watch what happens.

Teppic

8,079 posts

286 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Soovy said:
micron750 said:
Bitter that's something Jenson is not more like realistic,if he had the car that Lewis has had this year without a doubt he'd been fighting for the title.
I think you lot are missing the fact that Barrichello has had a better chance of a title and blew it.
Give Jenson the car to fight with and he will deliver!!
Barichello is older and got better results from the Honda.
But Brawn has admitted that the lack of development on the car hurt Button more than Barrichello, and that for the past two years the car has been designed more with Rubens in mind because he can't get to grips with the car when it is more to Jenson's liking.

7/11

217 posts

239 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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It seems that Lewis in his early days in F1 has focused on racing and not getting a big yaught and all the toys that JB had to have.

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Do you really become a better driver from having a poor car?
No, its what you tell yourself to make you feel better.

Streetrod

6,483 posts

235 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Look, if you asked any current driver in F1 if they had a a McLaren of a Ferrari, they would all say they would be title contenders, but in reality we know that would not be true. At the end of the day some guys will always be better than others even in the same equipment.

mdm123

387 posts

293 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Streetrod said:
Look, if you asked any current driver in F1 if they had a a McLaren of a Ferrari, they would all say they would be title contenders, but in reality we know that would not be true. At the end of the day some guys will always be better than others even in the same equipment.
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zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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Teppic said:
But Brawn has admitted that the lack of development on the car hurt Button more than Barrichello, and that for the past two years the car has been designed more with Rubens in mind because he can't get to grips with the car when it is more to Jenson's liking.
Does that sound like they should get rid of one of those drivers in favour of two drivers that have a similar style and 'develop' the car so?

Teppic

8,079 posts

286 months

Monday 10th November 2008
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zac510 said:
Teppic said:
But Brawn has admitted that the lack of development on the car hurt Button more than Barrichello, and that for the past two years the car has been designed more with Rubens in mind because he can't get to grips with the car when it is more to Jenson's liking.
Does that sound like they should get rid of one of those drivers in favour of two drivers that have a similar style and 'develop' the car so?
I do get the feeling that Rubens has driven his last race and that Bruno Senna will be put in the car. What puzzles me is that although their driving styles are so dissimilar, Jenson wants Rubens to be retained. Is Button afraid that a younger driver is going to come in to "his" team and blow him in to the weeds?

I used to rate Button as a driver. However, it looks to me that after two seasons in lousy cars he has simply given up on trying to achieve anything and is simply adding to his eventual retirement fund.

Jenson needs competitve machinery in order to thrive. That is something he will not get at Honda, despite Ross Brawn's best efforts. So long as they keep a designer who only has experience of designing things with only two wheels, and the need for every design decision to be authorised hy the Honda board in Japan they are going to go nowhere.