Brundle/Allen

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StevieBee

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13,595 posts

262 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Is it just me or does Martin Brundle sound increasingly peed off with James Allen with each grand prix?

They should do what they are doing with Have I Got News for You and have a different guest "celebrity" commentator in with Brundle each race.

Any suggestions?

FourWheelDrift

89,642 posts

291 months

Tuesday 1st July 2003
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agreed, there's only one double act that works.

Keith Huewen and Julian Ryder.

They used to do Sky's Superbike coverage now alas split up with Jules working for Eurosport on MotorGP and Keith left on Sky to work on other car racing.

They could have Keith & Jules doing the commentary, Brundle in the studio (get rid of that tw@ Rosenthal) and have Dannii Minogue in a very skimpy jumpsuit as the roving pitlane reporter.

(Yes...100th successfull mention of Dannii Minogue on PH)

PS...too much Merlot........

jamesc

2,820 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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StevieBee said:
Is it just me or does Martin Brundle sound increasingly peed off with James Allen with each grand prix?

They should do what they are doing with Have I Got News for You and have a different guest "celebrity" commentator in with Brundle each race.

Any suggestions?


Ben Edwards does a good job!

Roy C

4,192 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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StevieBee said:
Is it just me or does Martin Brundle sound increasingly peed off with James Allen with each grand prix?

I think that's because it's just after he's had a chat with Bernie, who keeps asking if he's started building the "Ecclestone Suite" at Silverstone yet!

williamp

19,564 posts

280 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Why not use the Radio Le Mans crew???

The most informed, informative bunch of poeple you'll ever likely to hear.

Mind you, they'd be very bored with F1....

neilr

1,533 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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mind you im not suprised, James Allen is the most irritating commentator this side of Virginia Wade or Geoffery Boycott, I feel sorry for Martin Brundle being stuck in a commentary box with him.

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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The problem with Allen is that he sounds like a knowitall anorak. I thought when he was the original pit-lane man on ITV that he was useless and to take over the role from Murray Walker, well, sorry,he doesn't cut it. But then neither does F1 anymore, so there's no point in worrying about it.

Martin Haven would be a good commentator, but he does more interesting things like the ALMS.

Jim Rosenthal just shouldn't be in a racing paddock, let alone F1, he's useless!

reealfast

42 posts

258 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Racefan_uk said:
The problem with Allen is that he sounds like a knowitall anorak. I thought when he was the original pit-lane man on ITV that he was useless and to take over the role from Murray Walker, well, sorry,he doesn't cut it. But then neither does F1 anymore, so there's no point in worrying about it.

Martin Haven would be a good commentator, but he does more interesting things like the ALMS.

Jim Rosenthal just shouldn't be in a racing paddock, let alone F1, he's useless!


Agreed, Im more interested in seeing DRIVERS race not this roundy roundy stuff, auto box, TC.
Classic racings always gonna be the best, power slides and GT40's anyday please!.

The DJ 27

2,666 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Modern GT cars move around quite a bit under power. Jean Marc Gounon was getting VERY sideways at somepoints at Donington on Sunday

Steviebee

Original Poster:

13,595 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd July 2003
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Mind you, the Minardis look as though they handle like MK2 Capris!

Izza

571 posts

283 months

Friday 4th July 2003
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Martin is an excellent commentator.
But James, jeeezus, sombody put him out of our misery.


BRING BACK MURRY WALKER



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Esprit

6,370 posts

290 months

Sunday 6th July 2003
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Martin brundle's the best, but perhaps James Allen ain't the best sidekick..... Perhaps Tiff Needell should commentate beside him.... somehow I think his idiosynchratic way of putting things would compliment Martin's Technical broadcasting prowess

Graham

16,369 posts

291 months

Monday 7th July 2003
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have you ever listened to the commentry on radio 5 its much better than itv, with people like stirling moss and derek bell..


and digressing slightly, james allen was saying on sunday that is was a vintage year in f1 and very exciting UH... I only watch it out of habit... its dull dull dull
pit stop overtaking and the teams taking it in turn to win is boring....

pawsmcgraw

957 posts

265 months

Monday 7th July 2003
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i've actually started listening to five live's coverage on the web (cos my antenna won't quite get it over here ) with the sound down on the tv and only turn it up when something interesting happens...which isn't very often,it is better than James Allen's waffle for sure

hornet

6,333 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2003
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I'm SICK of James Allen - during nearly every race we get his inane drivel about "a race to remember", "fantastic season" and so on. Memo for Mr Allen - this season has been average at best, spiced up mainly due to rule changes and weather. I want racing, not chess on wheels. I've recently been watching far more of the IRL and CART races, and they're far better. Also managed to find Aussie Tourers tucked away on Channel 5 in the wee small hours - now that's racing - big V8s with more power than grip. Exactly the same reason the Tuscan series is so good to watch, despite maybe not being as strong as it has been of late.

whatever

2,174 posts

277 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2003
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hornet said:
I'm SICK of James Allen - during nearly every race we get his inane drivel about "a race to remember", "fantastic season" and so on.


Yeah, but we get that on Sky for the football. Every game is always the most exciting of the season, played in the world's most exciting league. Apparently.

It's all part of trying to convince the viewer that what they're watching is worthwhile and making sure they watch it again, to keep the advertisers happy.

Keep telling people something and eventually it'll become accepted wisdom. It'll "seem" to be true. Politicians do it all the time, take "speed kills", for example. Or any other issue where there's genuine debate. The trick is not to engage in debate but keep stating the "fact".

porky

201 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2003
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I agree James Allen is annoying in both the rubbish he talks and the daft tone of voice he seems to feel compelled to use. Charlie Cox was brilliant when the BBC covered Touring Cars so why not bring him in.

Brundle is superb - without him the coverage would be so dire as to be unwatchable.

It was also ironic when ITV cut to a chuffin' advert break just as the biggest story in F1 for years was on screen (the Irish Catholic Priest loony running up the Hangar Straight!) but at least we were spared James Allen having a paroxysm!! Bring back the BBC!

andyvdg

1,537 posts

290 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2003
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Racefan_uk said:
The problem with Allen is that he sounds like a knowitall anorak. I thought when he was the original pit-lane man on ITV that he was useless and to take over the role from Murray Walker, well, sorry,he doesn't cut it. But then neither does F1 anymore, so there's no point in worrying about it.

Martin Haven would be a good commentator, but he does more interesting things like the ALMS.

Jim Rosenthal just shouldn't be in a racing paddock, let alone F1, he's useless!



I'll add "Ferrari loving" knowitall anorak. I'm tired of the sycophantic way he talks about anything to do with the team and the rather patronising way he talks about the other teams in a "well done for doing so well because you're not Ferarri" way. In fact it was at one of these moments it sounded like Martin wanted to deck him :

James "What points will Michael come away from this race at the moment ?"

Martin "None, he's fifteenth."

Didn't he call his son Enzo ?

Sooner the better, get rid. A Minogue sister would be a fine replacement.

>> Edited by andyvdg on Tuesday 22 July 10:01

hornet

6,333 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2003
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porky said:
It was also ironic when ITV cut to a chuffin' advert break just as the biggest story in F1 for years was on screen (the Irish Catholic Priest loony running up the Hangar Straight!) but at least we were spared James Allen having a paroxysm!! Bring back the BBC!


Think they did that on purpose to avoid the viewing public the very real possibility of seeing that bloke smashed into smithereens on live television....

Now, cutting away from the Hungarian GP just as Hill overtook Schumacher on the other hand....

The DJ 27

2,666 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2003
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I say bring in Ben Edwards. He's a fantastic commentator, from when he did Indycars (as it was called then) on Eurosport, to doing the BTCC on ITV now. He'd go much better with Martin Brundle than that tit Allen.

Another thing I've noticed about James Allen, is that in qualifying, what he says has no relation to whats happening on track. He talks about the drivers personal life, and how he's been getting on with his race engineer. Now, theres a time and a place for all that. IT'S NOT WHILE HE'S ON HIS HOTLAP!!! SHUT UP AND LET BRUNDLE DO QUALIFYING ON HIS OWN!!!
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Glad i got that off my chest