RE: RE: Tuscan Challenge 2002
Discussion
If TVR want to reduce the costs to competitors why not specify one particular make of damper which does not have so many adjustments. This would cut down on the amount of testing needed to set the car up before each event but would still allow the more talented drivers to show their ability.
If TVR are serious about cutting costs then I would urge them to look at the whole package. I know this is not meant to be a budget racing series but that is no excuse for not making it good value for money (relatively speaking).
Any comments?
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A possible future Tuscan competitor
In Reply to Andea
some of the teams have spent a lot of time and money on dampers its the only parts on the cars which are free, and the race engineers have to play with. we would love to see you join the grid so if you are to, buy a car with all the right bits.thats the only way to do it.
Hi Bert,
As you seem quite knowledgeable could you answer a few questions i have.
1. Where exactly do you find a Tuscan Challenge Racer for sale?
2.What licence do you need to compete.
3. Why do some of the cars have (ugly) aerodynamic aids that others do not have. This surely makes it a touch unfair?
Nick.
I think the tuscan challenge went to national A licence this year so you would need to do the ards test, loose the novice cross ( 10 race finish signatures) and then get the upgrade signatures for the A licence( another 10 signatures i think)
sounds like you should have a year racing tasmins first...
to race tasmins you pass the ards test and go for it... ( usually backwards in my case)
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Graham (tasmin racer)
quote:You could try talking to Rod Barret at Hawthorns TVR - I was debating whether to buy one and get it converted for the road. You'd be looking at approx. £15K for a good one, plus an engine (leased from TVR). Mike.
Hi Bert, As you seem quite knowledgeable could you answer a few questions i have. 1. Where exactly do you find a Tuscan Challenge Racer for sale? 2.What licence do you need to compete. 3. Why do some of the cars have (ugly) aerodynamic aids that others do not have. This surely makes it a touch unfair? Nick.
ive seen two recently advertised for sale, one was yr unknown but rebuilt in '00 by Henley Heritage. It has just been sold and was advertised at £11750. The other is a '97 model, with ohlins suspension, pi data logger and is ready to race (bar engine of course) its advertised at £14k.
Like you Mike i was looking for one to convert to road use, but atm its probably above my budget and time constraints. I reckon it would go nicely tho with a cerby 4.5 ajp8. Especially with the race filters, exhaust headers and pipes. I think i may have to wait till the summer before doing it now.
quote:I suppose they could make it part of the deal with the tracks that they are not to allow tuscans to test on them until after that track has been used in the series. That way the cars could still be run elsewhere to allow drivers to get used to the car, but not setup for each individual track. This would allow the best of both worlds eg drivers used to the car, but no one getting a setup advantage.
I'm not sure how they're going to police the no-testing policy though. Is that a good idea, given the immense power of these cars, I thought letting people do as much testing as they could would be a smart move.
quote:That'll be a popular move with the mechanics im sure. I reckon my idea is better, eg not allow them to test on a particular circuit till after it has been used in the series. Would you want your first drive of a 500bhp 830kg car to be in an actual racing situation? or would you rather have some time to get to know that car and its quirks. Besides that plays right into the hands of the richer teams cos they could install a cerby 4.5 for testing, power would be down sure, but they could play around with setups. Another thing is these cars take a pounding and crash a lot. would you want to take a newly repaired car out and race it without any testing? Edited by holbrooknr on Wednesday 3rd October 13:35
I think they're just going to take the engines back after each race.
Call me a skeptic but i can see plenty of ways around these regulations for teams with money behind them.
Arent these testing rules being put into place to encourage new teams and give those with smaller budgets a better chance. BUT does it not look like longer running teams will have a real definitive advantage, having driven the circuits and cars before, with the new teams being unable to test.
If you are rich then there is pretty much a way around most things. By banning the testing TVR have done their best to cut costs. You could learn the circuits on a track day in your road car and there is always going to pre a pre race test on the Saturday. I think that TVR should be commended for attempting to make their championship better value for money. Racing is too expensive at the moment and TVR are in a position where, if they wanted, they could make the costs spiral because they control everything. In reply to an earlier comment, to get a National A licence you need only 10 signatures after passing your ARDS test.
quote:Does this work in a similar way to the Nat B licence then, eg you can run as a Nat A novice once you have a full Nat B licence. Im only asking because a friend runs in the mighty mini series and he said you need to get 10 signatures after gaining the full Nat B licence to ugrade to the Nat A.
In reply to an earlier comment, to get a National A licence you need only 10 signatures after passing your ARDS test.
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