Racing with (nearly) no Rules - CanAm, Goodwood MM 2024

Racing with (nearly) no Rules - CanAm, Goodwood MM 2024

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WhyOne

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413 posts

205 months

Sunday 14th April
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How did CanAm come about?

"What would happen if we went racing with no car design rules?"

"Well, that would be daft...you have to have some rules!

OK...the cars have to be designed to carry two people.....errr....and the rear wheels need to be faired in...better?"

"Yup, that'll do"

Well, probably not quite like that, but the end result was the same.

For a few glorious years in the 1960's-70's CanAm was the biggest racing series on the planet.

At this weekends Members meeting there was an astonishing selection of CanAm, many of which ran in a track demonstration - it was tremendous to see, hear and smell these extraordinary cars - for me, especially the Shadows - surely the coolest racing team ever?!



The bizarre 1968 Shadow Lowline Prototype - 10" front wheels, had to be driven splay footed, pop-up aero to assist braking (sadly not working yesterday)
















"Do you think that the engine is big enough.....and the rear wing could go a size up surely whilst we are at it?" (radiators mounted on wing!)




WhyOne

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413 posts

205 months

Sunday 14th April
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ChevronB19

6,364 posts

170 months

Sunday 14th April
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I love Can-Am, just mad, and Shadow were the maddest.

My uncle used to own a Shadow F1 car, absolute lethal beast apparently.

Stick Legs

5,903 posts

172 months

Sunday 14th April
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Stunning to see them out.

The splayed foot low line car was bonkers.

Which is saying something as in any other company they’d be the maddest cars there.



Splayed foot pedal box.



Aero-rad



Marginally more conventional.



And just for fun the guy who decided that his Chrysler 300C would look awesome as a Cole Trickle tribute.

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biglaugh

Sandpit Steve

11,361 posts

81 months

Sunday 14th April
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Awesome photos guys, thanks for posting bow

Yes, some of the maddest racing cars in history, brilliant to watch.

WhyOne

Original Poster:

413 posts

205 months

Sunday 14th April
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Twin rear wheels on the 1970 Shadow Chevy....


The Hypno-Toad

12,683 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th April
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Some really great shots there, thank you for posting them. I have a lot to edit down but I will put some up later in the week.

In the meantime, here is a shot of that bizarre pedal layout in the red skateboard Shadow.


I believe the phrase is sod that for a game of soldiers!

I’m a Can-Am fan and I took two friends who are both motorsports enthusiasts and up til today didn’t really understand my love for the series but they do now!
Shame they didn’t run the Ferrari or the McLaren M20 and the black skateboard was a bit poorly on both days but it was an amazing turnout. When all of them were running in the paddock and the noise was pushing into your chest. Wow!

Always thought that the Can-Ams were going to turn up at Goodwood and they didn’t disappoint. Can we have Indycars next please?

jmwalkeruk

82 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th April
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Fantastic. Best 'Goodwood' post on here in a long, long time. Love the photos, do you have a close-up shot of Jackie Oliver? I wasn't old enough to appreciate him in a CanAm shadow in period (I think I was 3!) but it was great to see him back in his/Follmer's car. And that noise...

jmwalkeruk

82 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th April
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Can we have Indycars next please?

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That's exactly what I was thinking earlier!

coppice

8,905 posts

151 months

Monday 15th April
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For reasons beyond my control I had to miss the MM for the first time in years. And I'm still spitting feathers-I missed so much - the usual wonderful racing, also the sublime Ferrari 640 , and my favourite driver Lauda's McLaren. As it had the #1 it was a 1985 car and might even have been the one I saw him take to his last victory at Zandvoort. Sniff .

And Can Am - whisper it but the racing wasn't often close but who cares when monsters like that stalked the earth? No Chaparral , I'm almost relieved to say as I'd have crawled over broken glass to see one . But a cornucopia of Shadows, and what a sight , even on telly . For those wanting to know more, Pete Lyons is the doyen of Can Am reportage and I reviewed his wonderful book on the marque a year or two ago . It's a great story - how couldn't it be with former CIA man of mystery Don Nichols the creator of the team ?

If you were this weekend you had a rare privilege I bet you won't forget


ChevronB19

6,364 posts

170 months

Monday 15th April
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My uncles old Shadow (F1, not can-am, obviously), driven here by Mike Littlewood, with Peter Denty at the back of the car.


Hereward

4,382 posts

237 months

Monday 15th April
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For all the grumbling about GRRC's relentless commercial pursuits there are countless priceless moments over the course of the year when the emotional side of one's brain realises the costs are irrelevant.

The Can-Am display was wonderful and watching my son grin from ear to ear as they accelerated away from the chicane was one such priceless moment.

My own personal moment came shortly afterwards, seeing (and hearing) Gerhard Berger's 1989 V12 Ferrari bottoming out causing an eruption of sparks. Being an emotional and nostalgic fool I realised I had tears in my eyes.

WhyOne

Original Poster:

413 posts

205 months

Monday 15th April
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Hereward said:
For all the grumbling about GRRC's relentless commercial pursuits there are countless priceless moments over the course of the year when the emotional side of one's brain realises the costs are irrelevant.

The Can-Am display was wonderful and watching my son grin from ear to ear as they accelerated away from the chicane was one such priceless moment.

My own personal moment came shortly afterwards, seeing (and hearing) Gerhard Berger's 1989 V12 Ferrari bottoming out causing an eruption of sparks. Being an emotional and nostalgic fool I realised I had tears in my eyes.
Huge credit to Gerhard for giving the 640 some stick (not sure Goodwood would have appreciated this on a 'demo run' but it was spectacular). The car was increasingly blowing blue smoke and unfortunately wasn't able to run on Sunday frown



WhyOne

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413 posts

205 months

Monday 15th April
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A couple more of Gerhard...



CDR

66 posts

216 months

Monday 15th April
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jmwalkeruk said:
Fantastic. Best 'Goodwood' post on here in a long, long time. Love the photos, do you have a close-up shot of Jackie Oliver? I wasn't old enough to appreciate him in a CanAm shadow in period (I think I was 3!) but it was great to see him back in his/Follmer's car. And that noise...

As requested. Looking good for his age

moffspeed

2,900 posts

214 months

Monday 15th April
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An absolute must for any Shadow enthusiast, Pete Lyons’ wonderful book :



The Don looks down at engineer/designer Trevor Harris in a mock up of the low liner..


realjv

1,139 posts

173 months

Monday 15th April
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jmwalkeruk said:
Can we have Indycars next please?
That's exactly what I was thinking earlier!
Next year will mark the 90th anniversary of the first Offy engine win in the 500.....

shaunroche

211 posts

153 months

Monday 15th April
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moffspeed said:
An absolute must for any Shadow enthusiast, Pete Lyons’ wonderful book :

Hey, cheers for this, just gone and ordered it of Amazon!

shaunroche

211 posts

153 months

Monday 15th April
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Hereward said:
My own personal moment came shortly afterwards, seeing (and hearing) Gerhard Berger's 1989 V12 Ferrari bottoming out causing an eruption of sparks. Being an emotional and nostalgic fool I realised I had tears in my eyes.
Don't worry, you weren't alone! smile

NDA

22,326 posts

232 months

Monday 15th April
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WhyOne said:
The car was increasingly blowing blue smoke and unfortunately wasn't able to run on Sunday frown
Question answered - thank you.

I saw the smoke and wondered if all was well. I was only there on Saturday so had no idea.