Panasport Wheels: "For Racing Purpose Only"?

Panasport Wheels: "For Racing Purpose Only"?

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akstsstjs

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16 posts

86 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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I sometimes see used wheels for sale.
I would like to fit them to my road car.
Is it legal?
Is it advisable?
FMI, why are they "For Racing Purpose Only".
Thanks

geeks

9,733 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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What does your insurance company say? wink

akstsstjs

Original Poster:

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86 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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A good point to be on the safe side.
I am still interested in learning more about this subject.

Drumroll

3,983 posts

127 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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akstsstjs said:
I sometimes see used wheels for sale.
I would like to fit them to my road car.
Is it legal?
Is it advisable?
FMI, why are they "For Racing Purpose Only".
Thanks
Maybe the beading on the rim is only suitable for racing tyres.

DodgyGeezer

42,391 posts

197 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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aka_kerrly

12,490 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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akstsstjs said:
I sometimes see used wheels for sale.
I would like to fit them to my road car.
Is it legal?
Is it advisable?
FMI, why are they "For Racing Purpose Only".
Thanks
Suspect they are " racing use only" so that they can claim they are the highest quality but not submit them to have TuV/JWL quality control checks to verify if that is indeed the case.

Perhaps they don't forsee many sales in Europe+Japan




akstsstjs

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86 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Drumroll said:
Maybe the beading on the rim is only suitable for racing tyres.
Maybe - I'm not aware of that being an issue, but maybe.

akstsstjs

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Monday 22nd May 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
That's an interesting mix of views with no consensus.

akstsstjs

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86 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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aka_kerrly said:
Suspect they are " racing use only" so that they can claim they are the highest quality but not submit them to have TuV/JWL quality control checks to verify if that is indeed the case.

Perhaps they don't forsee many sales in Europe+Japan
Seems plausible that they are not interested in Road sales, so no need for Road certification.

Olivera

7,669 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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As far as I'm aware there is no such thing as 'road certification' of a wheel in the UK. There is elsewhere in the world such as TUV (Germany), but not in the UK. Perfectly legal to use these on the road in the UK.

akstsstjs

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86 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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If they are fit for track use then they must be at least as strong as and probably stronger than Road wheels.
I get the idea they might have a lesser lifepan, but that would be dependant on and as a result of how hard a life they have on the track.
Which suggests that if they look OK, no dents or cracks, they probably are OK for further use, on track or on road.
It would be nice to know Panasport's reasons for the labelling - I forgot to mention that I have emailed them previously, but no reply.
I think I will ask my Insurance Company and see if they have any technical knowledge about this issue.
I am expecting their Insurance response will be an unthinking "no, you can't use them".
I'll let you know how i get on.

aka_kerrly

12,490 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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akstsstjs said:
aka_kerrly said:
Suspect they are " racing use only" so that they can claim they are the highest quality but not submit them to have TuV/JWL quality control checks to verify if that is indeed the case.

Perhaps they don't forsee many sales in Europe+Japan
Seems plausible that they are not interested in Road sales, so no need for Road certification.
Just to quickly clarify, i wasn't implying they are a sub standard product, i assume the cost/effort of getting them tested for road use is not something they need to worry about if they can sustain the business supplying race only equipment.



akstsstjs

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16 posts

86 months

Saturday 27th May 2023
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I checked this issue with my insurance company. It was not something they had come across before. They took a whild to think about it and in the end came back with this messge from the underwriters. "Erring on the side of caution we would need proof that the wheels are legal for UK road use". Pretty much what I expected and I can't complain.

mat205125

17,790 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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aka_kerrly said:
Suspect they are " racing use only" so that they can claim they are the highest quality but not submit them to have TuV/JWL quality control checks to verify if that is indeed the case.

Perhaps they don't forsee many sales in Europe+Japan
This!

"For Racing Use Only", or "Not For Road Use" on a component is less likely to be about the strength and fit for purpose, and more about the testing and certification that the item has been subjected to.



mat205125

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Tuesday 30th May 2023
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EmailAddress said:
You don't get potholes on race tracks.
You don't (hopefully) deliberately ride kerbs without slowing down on the road.

PhillipM

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196 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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mat205125 said:
You don't (hopefully) deliberately ride kerbs without slowing down on the road.
Racetrack kerbs are honestly generally tame compared to what road cars are expected to take 24/7

mat205125

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Friday 16th June 2023
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PhillipM said:
mat205125 said:
You don't (hopefully) deliberately ride kerbs without slowing down on the road.
Racetrack kerbs are honestly generally tame compared to what road cars are expected to take 24/7
Surprising all these race teams waste money on their stronger wheels, when road car stuff is so superior wink

darreni

3,994 posts

277 months

Friday 16th June 2023
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Race car components are usually lifed & subject to constant checks.
Road car wheels less so.

PhillipM

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196 months

Friday 16th June 2023
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mat205125 said:
Surprising all these race teams waste money on their stronger wheels, when road car stuff is so superior wink
Because road cars just make the material thicker and heavier because their lifetime is so much longer.

You need strong materials when you're making them thinner and lighter...

Impact forces on tracks are generally far below what road cars are expected to put up with for years.