BTCC 2022 - Silverstone

[Sebring440]

Silverstone this weekend. Back on ITV4 for all the races:

[Dan BSCS]

I can never understand why they use the National layout. It’s abysmal.

[Sebring440]

Dan BSCS said:

I can never understand why they use the National layout. It’s abysmal.

They were going to use the GP circuit in the second visit of 2020, but (of course) that didn't happen. Maybe one day.

[LukeBrown66]

Might be numerous things, costs being the main one, BSB did exactly the same, also easier to provide security, attendants etc, plus they can run the Stowe track for bread and butter and still use Wing for meetings etc etc

[sortedcossie]

We're going on the Sunday, adult tickets weren't unreasonable at £25 each - kids under 15 free.

[DanielSan]

LukeBrown66 said:

Might be numerous things, costs being the main one, BSB did exactly the same, also easier to provide security, attendants etc, plus they can run the Stowe track for bread and butter and still use Wing for meetings etc etc

The paddock is supposedly not big enough by the new wing to hold the BTCC teams and all the support categories. It's not a hard thing to base the support stuff at the old pits and just start them on the new circuit if needed though.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

No reason why you can’t run the Gp circuit from the old pits..

[super7]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

No reason why you can’t run the Gp circuit from the old pits..

The Lap is too long so the race's would be 10laps vs 20laps. Spectators won't see as much of the cars!!

And the support race cars would be dwarfed by the circuit size (ie they're too slow!)

[JoelH]

super7 said:

And the support race cars would be dwarfed by the circuit size (ie they're too slow!)

Only the juniors and minis are slower than the touring cars. The others (F4, Porsches and Ginetta GT4) are the same laptime or faster.

I agree that the package as a whole doesn't work on the GP track though especially with the grid numbers in some of the categories.

[Dan BSCS]

I don’t think they should use the GP track but the International layout is 1000x better than the National.

[Sebring440]

After a number of practice race starts this afternoon, Moffat's race engineer commented that his 4.3 second 0-100kph was the best he'd seen in a touring car.

So they're really not that fast.

GB4 racer Chloe Grant drove the Infiniti at Snetterton a few months back and she commented that it was slower than her little GB4.

[Dan BSCS]

Sebring440 said:

After a number of practice race starts this afternoon, Moffat's race engineer commented that his 4.3 second 0-100kph was the best he'd seen in a touring car.

So they're really not that fast.

GB4 racer Chloe Grant drove the Infiniti at Snetterton a few months back and she commented that it was slower than her little GB4.

Yeah, because 0-60 times is the most important metric for a race car.

[Sebring440]

Dan BSCS said:

Yeah, because 0-60 times is the most important metric for a race car.

I think you're completely missing the point, but I'll bow down to your obvious immense knowledge of race car engineering.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

Dan BSCS said:

I don’t think they should use the GP track but the International layout is 1000x better than the National.

Not sure if serious

GP circuit
National
Porsche circuit
Rally shook circuit
Perimeter roads
A43
Then the international

[Dan BSCS]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

Not sure if serious

GP circuit
National
Porsche circuit
Rally shook circuit
Perimeter roads
A43
Then the international

Wow! You’re weird!

[Dan BSCS]

Sebring440 said:

I think you're completely missing the point, but I'll bow down to your obvious immense knowledge of race car engineering.

The lap times they do are fast for FWD tin tops. Obviously slicks and wings single seaters will be faster. Even little bike engined ones. But I don’t see how that is relevant.

[EDLT]

I am shocked to learn that a FWD hatchback is slower than a single seater.

[JoelH]

With all the quali sessions done we can see where the BTCC cars stack up to the support series at this event.

Porsche: 54.247
F4: 54.252
Ginetta GT4: 55.496
BTCC: 57.374
Minis: 1:01.030
Ginetta Juniors: 1:10.537

[Giulia Jon]

A nicely slightly mixed up grid for tomorrow's opener with Butcher taking pole for the 2nd year running here .

Looking forward to watching this on tv ,I don't enjoy spectating at Silverstone much as the run off is so huge , the public are so far from the action .

I do prefer this circuit to Knockhill and Croft too .

[rallycross]

Dan BSCS said:

I can never understand why they use the National layout. It’s abysmal.

Yep waste of a weekend on the calendar using this crappy little circuit - it’s as bad to race on as it is to watch on tv. Best national race series on worst circuit.