FiA Presidential election...

FiA Presidential election...

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ArnageWRC

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2,177 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,683 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd December 2021
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I just came on here to post the same.

I think its odd, if not unprecedented that an ASN would publicly state it's allegiance before the election.

There must be some significant back ground politics going on, in that Bin Sulayam and Reid are not obviously F1 and therefore are likely to get a pasting at the elections, because its all about F1 at the FIA. The big money men in F1 will be wanting someone who represents their interests first. And for those with long memories this kind of machiavellian activity is what kiboshed the WRC when it rivalled F1 in the 1980's. BE pushing out the WRC agenda to focus on his own.

It's a big risk strategy in my opinion, if Stoker wins, there's going to be a lot of coughing and spluttering in MUK as they try not to get marginalised by the new leader they don't like.

IMHO Bin Sulayam and Reid are probably the better more balanced option but....

ArnageWRC

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2,177 posts

166 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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I agree - it's basically an F1 position. You need F1 connections, or you'll be nowhere. I recall the 2009 election; Todt v Vatanen - and a discussion on 5 Live about the election, they all knew who Todt was, from his Ferrari days, but Vatanen "I heard/think he was a rally driver?"

It doesn't help when the FiA President is often called 'the boss of F1' - by the media, completely unaware that he's not.

thepawbroon

1,192 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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I imagine somewhere within these murky doings is an angle for Dave Richards to become the senior in / head of FIA at some point in the future.

But I support their vote for Bin Sulayem and Reid. Don't forget Richards was Reid's boss for 6 years and they delivered a WRc title (and a BRC).

For one thing G.Stoker declined to have his hustings made public, such old-school secrecy is something I dislike.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,683 posts

230 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Looks like they guessed the right way!

Here’s to the RAC rally returning to the WRC in 2022 wink

ArnageWRC

Original Poster:

2,177 posts

166 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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A welcome surprise - I think it's the right choice. What I have found depressing is the comments (many which are racist) on social media; the inference he only got the job because of money. He's long been involved with the FiA, and of course a multi time Middle East Rally champion.....he's well earned this post!

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,683 posts

230 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Is there anywhere we can find out how close the vote was?

RichB

52,748 posts

291 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Is there anywhere we can find out how close the vote was?
Google...

Ben Sulayem defeated Graham Stoker, who served as the FIA's deputy president for sport under Todt, with 61.6% of the vote. Stoker recorded 36.6% of votes, while abstentions were recorded at 1.8%.

Tony33

1,170 posts

129 months

Friday 17th December 2021
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Ben Sulayem defeated Graham Stoker, who served as the FIA's deputy president for sport under Todt, with 61.6% of the vote.

Stoker recorded 36.6% of votes, while abstentions were recorded at 1.8%.

Source: Autosport

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,683 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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Thanks

RichB

52,748 posts

291 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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New FIA president Mohammed ben Sulayem refuses to rule out punishing Lewis Hamilton for boycotting its awards ceremony.

Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules." rofl

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

53 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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Also ,looking at the bigger picture, this result is no shock the Middle East are sport washing relentlessly right now, so expect just about every championship t have far more Middle Eastern rounds, new tracks etc. This is their policy and they now have an Arab as the head FIA guy, so expect the expected.


808 Estate

2,240 posts

98 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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RichB said:
New FIA president Mohammed ben Sulayem refuses to rule out punishing Lewis Hamilton for boycotting its awards ceremony.

Asked to clarify whether he was saying Hamilton would be penalised for not attending the gala, he said: "Forgiveness is always there. But rules are rules." rofl
It will probably go "You broke the rules, please dont do that again" and lets move on.

slopes

40,141 posts

194 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
Also ,looking at the bigger picture, this result is no shock the Middle East are sport washing relentlessly right now, so expect just about every championship t have far more Middle Eastern rounds, new tracks etc. This is their policy and they now have an Arab as the head FIA guy, so expect the expected.
But would that be such a bad thing? I seem to recall way back in the mists of time Kenny Roberts questioning why the 500cc Grabnd Prix championsip was called a world championship when it didn't visit most of the world.
Maybe new events in the Middle East or other countries that motorsport hasn't traditionally visited will be a good thing.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

53 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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Lol new events there are ONLY because of sport washing, countries with questionable human rights and ethics trying to wash their dirty laundry by paying extortionate amounts for sports events.

You might be happy with that, but I am not I am afraid.

drakart

1,738 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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ArnageWRC said:
I agree - it's basically an F1 position. You need F1 connections, or you'll be nowhere. I recall the 2009 election; Todt v Vatanen - and a discussion on 5 Live about the election, they all knew who Todt was, from his Ferrari days, but Vatanen "I heard/think he was a rally driver?"

It doesn't help when the FiA President is often called 'the boss of F1' - by the media, completely unaware that he's not.
This isn't very accurate. F1 is a tiny part of the FIA and Jean Todt had hardly any involvement in it. What the public perceive and the reality differs hugely.