Formula E Driver Disqualified from E-Race for Imposter Plot

Formula E Driver Disqualified from E-Race for Imposter Plot

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l354uge

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2,969 posts

128 months

Sunday 24th May 2020
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Well step aside paguenaud and Norris, we have a new top virtual racing controversy of 2020 hehe

https://the-race.com/formula-e/abt-disqualified-fi...

"Daniel Abt has admitted he did not drive to third place in Saturday’s ABB Formula E Race at Home Challenge and that professional simracer Lorenz Hoerzing imitated him in the #66 Audi.

Abt has been disqualified from the race and ordered to make a “compulsory donation” of €10,000 to charity, while Hoerzing has been banned from the Race Challenge outright, and was stripped of his sixth-place finish in the companion Formula E Challenge Grid race in Berlin"

Amazing drama, better than the actual 'race'!

Kraken

1,710 posts

207 months

Sunday 24th May 2020
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That will get all the Alonso conspiracy theorists from yesterdays Indy race talking. Alonso goes from never having sim raced at all to winning two races in a week so of course the chat on the stream yesterday was that it really wasn't him as there was no webcam as with the other main drivers.

I, for one, will be glad to get back to real racing. Sim racing definitely has a place but I don't think trying to get real drivers doing it and taking it deadly serious really works. Better to leave it to those who do it all the time.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

74 months

Sunday 24th May 2020
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Kraken said:
That will get all the Alonso conspiracy theorists from yesterdays Indy race talking. Alonso goes from never having sim raced at all to winning two races in a week so of course the chat on the stream yesterday was that it really wasn't him as there was no webcam as with the other main drivers.
not like him to rig things is it?scratchchin

I hope they don't strip him of it, I was kind of hoping now he's got his "triple" he'll fk off and retire, I suppose shutting up would be too much to wish for..

As for abt, been to the formula (ww)e school of taking yourself too seriously, bit pathetic.

Kraken

1,710 posts

207 months

Sunday 24th May 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
As for abt, been to the formula (ww)e school of taking yourself too seriously, bit pathetic.
Actually Abt said the problem was that he wasn't taking it seriously enough...

"I would like to apologise to Formula E, all of my fans, my team and my fellow drivers for having called in outside help during the race on Saturday," Abt said.

"I did not take it as seriously as I should have. I am especially sorry about this because I know how much work has gone into this project on the part of the Formula E organisation.

"I am aware that my offence has a bitter aftertaste, but it was never meant with any bad intention.

"Of course, I accept my disqualification from the race."

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

74 months

Sunday 24th May 2020
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Kraken said:
Teddy Lop said:
As for abt, been to the formula (ww)e school of taking yourself too seriously, bit pathetic.
Actually Abt said the problem was that he wasn't taking it seriously enough...

[quote]Abt apologised for his actions in that same statement and admitted he didn't take the series as seriously as he should have.

"I would like to apologise to Formula E, all of my fans, my team and my fellow drivers for having called in outside help during the race on Saturday," Abt said.

"I did not take it as seriously as I should have. I am especially sorry about this because I know how much work has gone into this project on the part of the Formula E organisation.

"I am aware that my offence has a bitter aftertaste, but it was never meant with any bad intention.

"Of course, I accept my disqualification from the race."
smells like BS in my book.

Don't take it seriously, you just don't bother engaging, or crash for giggles and log out.

Go to the effort of engaging a serious sim racer to step in for you, in a "plot" which obviously means you have to hide to keep up appearances and lie about st, says you're trying.

ajprice

29,265 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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l354uge

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2,969 posts

128 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Crazy, that's two drivers now that have lost thier jobs because of e racing conduct.

Lotus Notes

1,239 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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ajprice said:
"Integrity, transparency and consistent compliance with applicable rules are top priorities for Audi – this applies to all activities the brand is involved in without exception;"

The irony... Link to latest Dieselgate saga

gmaz

4,628 posts

217 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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A huge overreaction by Audi in my opinion.

Daniel's video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ktOUffssTA&fe...

GregK2

1,692 posts

153 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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l354uge said:
Crazy, that's two drivers now that have lost thier jobs because of e racing conduct.
I must have missed, who was the other?

l354uge

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2,969 posts

128 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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GregK2 said:
I must have missed, who was the other?
Nascar driver who used the n word on the public Iracing chat during a sanctioned event.

Teppic

7,505 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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ajprice said:
He's now been sacked.

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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The debate over whether sim racing is "real", or if it should be taken seriously is moot here. In this situation Abt was an employee of Audi and was being paid to represent them and sponsors of the team. It was his job to race for his employer and whether that be at a real circuit or virtual one, there is no difference.

He's potentially seriously jeopardised the team there, as by standing by their driver they're condoning the behaviour. Who would sponsor that team? There was no way they could keep him.

ajprice

29,265 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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mstrbkr said:
The debate over whether sim racing is "real", or if it should be taken seriously is moot here. In this situation Abt was an employee of Audi and was being paid to represent them and sponsors of the team. It was his job to race for his employer and whether that be at a real circuit or virtual one, there is no difference.

He's potentially seriously jeopardised the team there, as by standing by their driver they're condoning the behaviour. Who would sponsor that team? There was no way they could keep him.
This.

If it was done with the team inbetween races as a promotional joke video, like Mercedes a few years ago with Hamilton and Will Smith, it would have been fine. But he did it by himself for a real e-race without the team or FE knowing about it, and really did get someone to replace him. When there are sponsors and the image of the team and the series involved, it's going too far.

amare32

2,419 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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Welcome to the Snowflake Generation times when impersonating an e driver is actually more serious than a real crime.. they could've just handed him a heavy fine and left it at that. The SJWs and virtue signallers will be wanting to cancel him rolleyes

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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amare32 said:
Welcome to the Snowflake Generation times when impersonating an e driver is actually more serious than a real crime.. they could've just handed him a heavy fine and left it at that. The SJWs and virtue signallers will be wanting to cancel him rolleyes
Snowflake deserves to be in room 101. It's up there with woke. Very cringe.

ArnageWRC

2,178 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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mstrbkr said:
The debate over whether sim racing is "real", or if it should be taken seriously is moot here. In this situation Abt was an employee of Audi and was being paid to represent them and sponsors of the team. It was his job to race for his employer and whether that be at a real circuit or virtual one, there is no difference.

He's potentially seriously jeopardised the team there, as by standing by their driver they're condoning the behaviour. Who would sponsor that team? There was no way they could keep him.
Crashing into people, driving the wrong way, etc is all fine if done offline or whilst messing about; I've done it myself, especially on the PS1 Toca WTC game.

However, when racing in an 'official' event, representing sponsors/manufacturers, you take it as seriously as a 'real life' event. He just comes across as a bit of a prat, especially as he's not the first to fall foul during this period of no real life motorsport. What is so difficult to understand about this? Being a factory driver isn't just about driving, you're a representative of a major global company - act like it.

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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ArnageWRC said:
mstrbkr said:
The debate over whether sim racing is "real", or if it should be taken seriously is moot here. In this situation Abt was an employee of Audi and was being paid to represent them and sponsors of the team. It was his job to race for his employer and whether that be at a real circuit or virtual one, there is no difference.

He's potentially seriously jeopardised the team there, as by standing by their driver they're condoning the behaviour. Who would sponsor that team? There was no way they could keep him.
Crashing into people, driving the wrong way, etc is all fine if done offline or whilst messing about; I've done it myself, especially on the PS1 Toca WTC game.

However, when racing in an 'official' event, representing sponsors/manufacturers, you take it as seriously as a 'real life' event. He just comes across as a bit of a prat, especially as he's not the first to fall foul during this period of no real life motorsport. What is so difficult to understand about this? Being a factory driver isn't just about driving, you're a representative of a major global company - act like it.
I believe we're on the same page?

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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Da Costa and Calado have announced they'll no longer be taking part in streaming events - don't know if there are others, these are the two I've seen.

So, by sacking/suspending Abt, have Audi done more damage to what were supposed to be fun charity events?

Centurion07

10,395 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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If their employers want them taking part, THEY'LL BE TAKING PART! biggrin