90's BTCC question...

90's BTCC question...

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Partyvan

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464 posts

145 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Does anybody happen to know why the Mondeo BTCC car of the mid 90's used a V6, where the norm was a 2.0 16v 4 cylinder?

Partyvan

Original Poster:

464 posts

145 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Zarco

19,233 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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IIRC it was a weight distribution thing. Think the V6 could sit further back in the chassis. Something along those lines.

I may have completely made that up biggrin

I'm sure Ford had the biggest budget and did loads of trick tweaks to the Mondeo.

That video - BTCC was the st back then. Just can't get excited by it now.

Speed Badger

3,173 posts

132 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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More, smaller cylinders would give you more revs & more power. Plus all the other Ford engines were a bit pony at that time!

EDLT

15,421 posts

221 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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It may have helped with centre of gravity too, the engine was mounted so low that the driveshaft ran through the middle of the v

chunder27

2,309 posts

223 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Was a good engine initially Mazda based I think, hence the Xedos too using the same lump.

But the cars had awful front tyre wear after the first year, Radisich was always quick but would invariably drop back.

Prodrive fixed it all later on, but the real boom times were gone

Partyvan

Original Poster:

464 posts

145 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Driveshaft through the V. Legendary!

FourWheelDrift

90,922 posts

299 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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They were planned to be rear wheel drive too using the technical loophole of the rear drive (and front) Mondeo 4x4. But Rouse changed to front wheel drive, I think this is why it's appearance was delayed until the 7th round of the 1993 season.

Zarco

19,233 posts

224 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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Well done EDLT.

Coatesy351

881 posts

147 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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EDLT said:
It may have helped with centre of gravity too, the engine was mounted so low that the driveshaft ran through the middle of the v
I'm sure the early rouse ones weren't like that though.

GOATever

2,651 posts

82 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Regarding the benefit of having 6 cylinders, there really wasn't any aside from perhaps a slight torque advantage. I have read that due to additional losses from the extra 2 cylinders the rev limit on the 6's was raised to 9000rpm, from 8500rpm for all of the other engines (including the volvo 5's). I think the biggest benefit for Ford was that it was something different to the others and sounded fantastic. Very much a case of race on a Sunday, sell on a Monday.

clubracing

361 posts

221 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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I think overall the V6 was a disadvantage compared to the 4 cylinder competition, particularly in terms of packaging and engine location which eventually resulted in them using the solution of drive shaft through the V of the cylinder banks, but of the engines that were available from the Ford range it was the best compromise for the regulations.

Here's a period article with some comments from Any Rouse about the engine choice https://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/set...

Ditchfinder General

937 posts

157 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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Partyvan said:
Lottery win car: Mazda MX-6 in black with that Mondeo engine. That would make my daily commute over the mountain section of the TT course a bit more.. interesting.

Bullitt Five-Oh

876 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd March 2019
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GOATever said:
and sounded fantastic.
I don't know man, it sounds more like a rice car than a race car.