RACMSA Licence

[vjay48]

I thought that MSA comp. licence was suspended on the loss of road licence, driver in Porsche race at Knockhill was recently in court for a
D/D offence.

[Kraken]

As long as the event does not take place on public roads then the loss of the road license has no bearing on the race license.

What often happens is that teams drop drivers who get a DD conviction so it might give the impression that they've lost their race license.

[vjay48]

It used to be in the blue book that the loss of road licence also meant comp licence was suspended,i can name several drivers falling foul of this,one was a personal friend! So it must not be the case anymore.

[vjay48]

Kraken said:

As long as the event does not take place on public roads then the loss of the road license has no bearing on the race license.

What often happens is that teams drop drivers who get a DD conviction so it might give the impression that they've lost their race license.

Does this happen a lot then?

[grumpy52]

Didn't a certain high profile touring car driver get a ban a few years ago ?
He started flying in to most venues via helicopter .

[vjay48]

Being old I think I can remember Stirling Moss losing his licence road/comp years ago,he then raced on USA licence,i must assume that MSA do not get involved in this any more. Don't forgot you have to produce your DVLA licence to do a track day.

[vjay48]

grumpy52 said:

Didn't a certain high profile touring car driver get a ban a few years ago ?
He started flying in to most venues via helicopter .

Perhaps he lived in Monaco,raced on a non RACMSA license?

[anonymous-user]

It hasn't been the RACMSA for a very long time.

Half of the drivers on Rally GB were banned in 2003 for speeding, Kriss Meeke got a 12 month ban but kept his MSA licence.

Pretty sure McRae was banned too at one point, with the codriver doing the road sections.

[vjay48]

I have l looked for an old blue book,only one I can find was 1996! Msa made holding a road licence a condition of the issue of a comp licence,a waiver could be granted for loss of licence for speeding etc. no waiver for D/D. A certain well known saloon car driver/piss artist sat out a season once! So the conditions for issue of licence have changed, however I assume that bringing the sport in to disrepute is still a reason for lose of comp. licence?

[Kraken]

vjay48 said:

Does this happen a lot then?

Depends on where the team gets its money from

[vjay48]

Kraken said:

Depends on where the team gets its money from

I can see that in one case the team had a vested interest in there profile for D/D. The club we race with started waving breathyslers around after one team and its drivers had paddock piss up until the early hours. However I don't know what the outcome of a fail would be,again in one case I know of a club chased a driver for alcohol,they .were testing for the wrong substance.

[velocemitch]

Plenty of young people not old enough to drive on the road hold an MSA licence, which tends to negate your argument somewhat.

[carl_w]

velocemitch said:

Plenty of young people not old enough to drive on the road hold an MSA licence, which tends to negate your argument somewhat.

I think there is an exemption for young racing drivers.

I also know someone who had his competition licence suspended after getting done for D/D.

[vjay48]

velocemitch said:

Plenty of young people not old enough to drive on the road hold an MSA licence, which tends to negate your argument somewhat.

I am not arguing,i am stating fact,i don't think it is a good thing to have a convicted drunk driver in a tv race series,it sends out the wrong message. It didn't used to be the case,perhaps you think its ok? I know that people pre driving age race,we have them in our championship.

Edited by vjay48 on Monday 27th August 13:55

[Dr Jekyll]

Is DD dangerous driving or drunk driving?

[vjay48]

Drink Driving,MSA used to be suspend comp.licence for a conviction.Dont do it anymore ?

[andy97]

jsf said:

It hasn't been the RACMSA for a very long time.

It is still officially the Royal Automobile Club Motor Sports Association Limited, albeit trading as the Motor Sports Association.

[anonymous-user]

OK not MSA because I'm overseas, but my daughter had a FIA sanctioned national race licence when she was 15 wan't old enough to have a road licence, I'm sure loads of others were in this position. She could normally talk her way into a track day with the race license.